View Full Version : Hosting jungle..HELP!! :)
Jizar ll
04-03-2002, 01:02 AM
Hi im looking for a host for my upcomming paysite, but i think its very hard to choose which company to go with..<br /><br />Sofar i have looked at servint, interaid, dynamic hosting and also cologroup (they seem very cheap)<br /><br />Right now im not sure how much BW im gonna use, approx 5-10mbit i think for the first months.. i have looked at their prices and they are very confusing..and there is quite a big gap between some of them so its hard to decide.<br /><br />I am going to host movies on my paysite, so i guess my mbps usage could jump up/down very much..so 95 percintile sounds not so good?<br /><br />I am not very Techie so iŽll need good support too.<br /><br />And other Hosting companies, donŽt tell me to contact you, if you have a deal, show it here.<br /><br />Jizar
justsexxx
04-03-2002, 03:40 AM
Hi,<br /><br />When it's for a paysite I would not go with cologroup. They have Cogentco BW, and cheap servers. I use it too, it's good for gallerieposting etc. But I would not use it when I need 99.99% uptime.<br /><br />Take a look at <a href="http://www.datahosters.com" target="_blank">www.datahosters.com</a> they can help you out<br /><br />Andre
Jizar ll
04-03-2002, 05:00 AM
Andre: thanks for the link i found this on their page:<br /><br />***********************''<br />Phat Dedicated:<br /><br />° Dual Pentium III 933MHz<br />° 1024 MB RAM<br />° 2 x 36GB SCSI HD<br />° 2 IP's<br />° Apache Webserver<br />° 10Mbps Uplink<br /><br />Monthly Fee: $850.00<br />Setup Fee: $400.00<br /><br />Bandwidth: .50/GIG !<br />*************************'<br /><br />DoesnŽt that also sound abit to cheap? Like cogenco?, and "10Mbps Uplink" does that mean it includes 10mbit transfer?
Clocka
04-03-2002, 05:14 AM
try <br /><br /><a href="http://www.techiemedia.com" target="_blank">www.techiemedia.com</a><br /><br />Jim & Wayne are very helpful
Jizar ll
04-03-2002, 05:31 AM
clocka, its easy to find helpfull people, i want to hear peoples experiences ect. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br />The net is filled with hosting companies, and i guess there is some paysite owners on this board what maybe would share some info <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />
toker
04-03-2002, 08:05 AM
Just for the record the prices we advertise are "not" managed servers and what is on our site is not yet updated for the dedicated packages. <br /><br />Our current packages come with 1500GB or greater monthly bandwidth commitment only and we dont charge you anything for the server. <br /><br />Price for the 1500GB is $.65/GB flat and we have 6 dedicated packages to choose from as low as $.40/GB. This is not Cogent bandwidth we only use Verio so dont let the price mislead you to think otherwise. <br /><br />If you have any questions contact me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />
nasko
04-03-2002, 08:12 AM
What's wrong with Cogent bandwidth ? I have a site there and the service seems to be good.
dantheman
04-03-2002, 10:06 AM
Jizar ll , We might be able to help. <br />If you have any questions,mail me<br />danny at simplecom.net
Clocka
04-03-2002, 01:38 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Jizar ll:<br /><strong>clocka, its easy to find helpfull people, i want to hear peoples experiences ect. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br />The net is filled with hosting companies, and i guess there is some paysite owners on this board what maybe would share some info <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I have been with them since they started.<br />I have had very few problems. I can not remember the last time my sites were down. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br /><br />Thats the best I can tell you!
matuloo
04-03-2002, 02:27 PM
I ll try to give you some hints here <br /><br />dont take some 95 percentile billing methods as that is just bullshit and you are never sure how much you will pay in the end.<br />Choose a plan that allows you to pay for what you use - there are some good hosting companies that will agree on this with you if you talk to them.<br /><br />Look after hosts that are hosting other paysites. I know that cwie.net and xxxwebhosting.com are hosting some big paysites.<br /><br />Ask for contract prices - I bet you are not gonna do this for a month or so - many hosting companies are willing to give you a discount when you sign a long term contract. I managed to get about 40% discount with such a contract.<br /><br />There are some sites rating hosting companies, this one for example : <a href="http://adult.tophosts.com/" target="_blank">http://adult.tophosts.com/</a><br /><br />Ask the host if there are any limitations on transfers - some hosts adopt this rule to protect themselves against sites that suddenly start to burn a lot of BW - this goes mainly for shared virtuals but its better to ask.<br /><br />Choose a host with good support - probably a paid one - as you dont want to loose revenue due to some downtimes. You plan to run a paysite and probably an affiliate program aswell so you have to make sure your site is always up and running.<br /><br />I hope this helped you a little bit.
Dcorp
04-03-2002, 02:42 PM
interaid.com
Adam69
04-03-2002, 04:32 PM
Shop around at <a href="http://www.hosts4porn.com" target="_blank">http://www.hosts4porn.com</a><br /><br />Adam
Atahualpa
04-03-2002, 05:59 PM
Your figures are way off. You'll never use that much. <br /><br />NEVER will you use that much for just inside the members area. Don't pre-buy so much bandwidth. Actually re-think about opening a paysite at all. <br /><br />Did you ever consider a premium AVS? CSN, AgeOath, ProAdult etc...? I think you're seriously on the wrong track here. No offense, just trying to help you saving some money and headaches, really...<br /><br />I am not a host, but I post movies. If you want send me a PM
LiveDose
04-03-2002, 06:55 PM
We use <a href="http://www.candidhosting.com" target="_blank">www.candidhosting.com</a> for dedicated. No complaints at all plus specials going on now...<br /><br />LD <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />
ProgGod
04-04-2002, 12:22 AM
Well we can off course help you, and we will beat any prices.<br /><br />Some suggestions i have for you no matter who you go with are the following:<br /><br />1. Check to make sure they have their own facility, buying space in someone elses hosts alot of people currently do. Basically if you need someone to fix your stuff you want them around all the time. Remote rebooters, and etc help out, but nothing replaces techs being 10 feet from your servers 24 hours per day. Also make sure they have full 24 hour support.<br /><br />2. Check to make sure they have GOOD bandwidth. What makes bandwidth poor is the way their traffic is routed, their saturation points, t heir percentage utilization, their routes length to mutiple providers etc. AT&T, UUNET, GBLX, are your premium bandwidth providers. Followed by Level3, and Verio. On the very bottom of the list is Cogent, and most other tier1, tier2 providers fall inbetween.<br /><br />3. Look for a host that has better then normal techs. You don't want some guy that sort of knows unix. Having solid programmers on staff helps alot, if you have a host that knows how to fix bugs in a kernel, then you can bet they will cover any problems you may have.<br /><br />There are many more things to take into account, but maybe this will get you started. Also check how long they have been hosting. When you are talking about a paysite, don't go for the cheapest price. Thats usually the worst bandwidth. Paysites make ALOT of money in comparision to their bandwidth bills. If you are out looking for the cheapest prices, you can bet you are gonna have problems. Bandwidth isn't the only thing that costs money, SUPPORT costs money. The larger hosts can help eat these costs and still make your prices very low. The smaller ones, when they cut corners to make cheap prices, they have to cut corners someplace else, and thats usually with support.<br /><br />Give me a hit up on ICQ if you have any questions. I hope you would give us a shot at your business, we will beat any quotes you have for comparible service.
Jizar ll
04-04-2002, 01:23 AM
Thanks alot guys, that was more the info i wanted <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> IŽll contant you progGod too alter today.<br /><br />Atahualpa: thats just great if my figures are ay off <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> But i dont think so, lets say an average of 10 users on fast internet connections download movies at 100kb/sec 24/7 on my site then its allready a big deal of bw right?
toker
04-04-2002, 05:17 AM
Owning the facility and paying more for it does not mean better service. I was with hosting.com for almost a year paying $4/GB it took them 6 tries to setup an MX record on one of my domains. In the process which took 3 days and 2 phone calls/5 emails they lost my DNS records entirely on the 4th try. <br /><br />I had many other issues FTP was always screwed up and when i needed anyting actually fixed i had to wait till 9am because the primary techs only worked 9-5am on weekdays. I was down just about every other day for 5-15 mins at a time so i guess owning the facility didnt make it much better for them.<br /><br />This is a company with thousands of mainstream clients and multi level support which has been in biz for years. So dont fool yourself with this BS about higher price quality support its just a way to make more money in most cases. <br /><br />I have records of all this saved emails and alerts to back every bit of this. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
justsexxx
04-04-2002, 09:08 AM
Isn't GBLX bankrupt?<br /><br />Andre
HugeSexMovies
04-04-2002, 10:15 AM
Hey Jizar II. If you are looking for a good hosting company then I am sure I can definitely help you out. I am affiliated with oxeo.com . Although our site is still in development (we are a relatively new company), our hosting is full blown. We also have a set of customized scripts that completely track your traffic, and bandwidth usage statistics. So far, we have no set in stone plans and prices so if you are interested, please contact me on either ICQ, or AIM. <br /><br />ICQ: 707600<br />AIM: HoiDaKalen
ProgGod
04-04-2002, 10:37 AM
Actually essentially GBLX froze all their creditors accounts. Basically they made their company so they have to pay no bills, and it allowed them to clean up their company without having to pay out the normal penalties it would take. For example they can fire employees that aren't helping them, drop contracts, etc, without any penalties.<br /><br />Most of the Department of Defenses network is on GBLX so they aren't going anywhere. It was more of a legal manavure, so that GBLX east, can buy GBLX US.
ProgGod
04-04-2002, 10:39 AM
BTW I look forward to hearing from you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />
Dammy
04-04-2002, 11:04 AM
We've been with Proggod for a while now and we're very satisfied. The prices are fair and their support is pretty good. Whenever there were problems, they fixed it in 15 mins, even if it was the middle of the night. <img border="0" alt="[Nod]" title="" src="graemlins/nod.gif" />
$tandaman
04-04-2002, 11:11 AM
Jizar all valid points mentioned above. Shop around, and you'll get the best price. If you are looking for cheap hosting, we could provide you with that, as welll as an upgraded, BGP4 bandwidth between tier1 providers we can offer you as well.<br /><br />We are going to run a few specials this month so check our site when you are ready to buy.<br /><br />If you want a special deal hit me up on icq, and i'll hook you up - 3302961.
The Tweet
04-04-2002, 11:57 AM
Go to <a href="http://www.phatservers.net" target="_blank">http://www.phatservers.net</a> and tell them I send you.<br /><br />They are very good and cheap.
AlwaysLearning
04-08-2002, 12:58 AM
Any suggestions as far as hosts for a new site? I don't imagine the traffic will be too high in the begining. Realistically, I know it will take time to bring up the traffic. I don't want to get raped, and I don't want a free host. I have done a search here and read all I could find. I have narrowed the choices down somewhat, but still am unsure.<br /><br />I know a few things for sure. I don't want any redirects, pop ups, dialers, or hot links.<br /><br />Feel free to PM me, if you don't want to post here. I know how it goes on forums......<br /><br />Thanks!
lachiep
04-08-2002, 05:42 AM
if u still havent found ne... my mate is starting up a company...<br /><br />$10 a month...50mb space or somefin<br /><br />$1 a gig transfer<br /><br />good deal..<br /><br /><a href="http://www.lynxwebhosting.com/" target="_blank">http://www.lynxwebhosting.com/</a>
ProgGod
04-10-2002, 09:08 PM
Here is a shovel for you, to use for digging up more dead threads <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />
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