blue gravity or hosthead

[jamies]

i am thinking of useing either blue gravity or hosthead, anybody with some info on these host please let me know, also if anyone has used someone better let me know as well.
Thanks everyone for your help
jamie

[dplaymax]

hey - why don't you try us? we have dual OC3 - tier 1 connections, and because of our direct connnection - we can offer you some of the lowest - most agressive pricing, with 24/7 tech support :)

[Bean]

I've been using hosthead for some time now and they by far are the best host I have ever used. You won't find a better host than hosthead.

[gse]

dploy you look like a dick

<back to the wonderful world of unix> :D

[Jon]

Max...

Will you please quit spamming?

Jon

[toker]

On the fucking REAL you spammin twirp you deserve a little time in the corner!

I know TwinTone from hosthead and hes a great guy so i would reccomend him although never used eather of em..

[TwinTone]

=)

Thanks Toker..

[donger]

attn: toker-
you're a dipshit

love,
donger

[Jon]

Originally posted by donger:
<STRONG>attn: toker-
you're a dipshit

love,
donger</STRONG>

Why because he doesn't like spam on posts not asking for hosting? Almost everybody on this board...Well all the non-spammers would agree with his comment...

Max has been repeatly spamming on here and everyone has asked him to stop but yet he continues and it needs to stop. Proggod: You need to keep your employee's from spamming the damn boards...

So looks like your the real dipshit here...

Jon

[Much0S]

What confuses me is that there are and were a few people that consistently spam on every message yet are never banned ?

[toker]

Sure so i should just spam my shit on every thread too..

I guess thats how you become part of the clique suckin dick, hitbotting and spamming. Anyhow TwinTone is a nice guy i dont see him spamming everyones shit nor the other company mentioned in this post saying ooo oo mememe ill take your money.

I dunno but i take it you host with spammer boy since you defend his shit honor. You sure dont see anyone connected with me spamming other peops stuff and i really am not that desperate to make a buck..

You have a problem with me take it up with someone who cares what you think of me. Personally i could give a shit im not on here to get your 5 star votes and lick your ass when you run out of toilet paper.

I just reccomend people stay the hell away from spammers who poke their nose up everyones ass because eventually they start to stink real bad.

[toker]

BTW Jon looks like they dont like you much eather for speaking your mind eh i see you have no stars also.. :p

TwinTone NP man you know im always here even as a competetor im not an ass like some folks.

MuchOS i couldnt agree more i think he just walks a very thin line and very soon hes a gonner.

[NakedPanda]

I kinda agree with bean hosthead are pretty
good. I'd like them a little faster but then I'd always say that

Panda

[dplaymax]

hey toker - well i have to say a few things.

1. Perhaps I did post in a way that was more direct - but I come from traditional mainstream business and have built 2 successful companies - one was over 100 empolyees - and I have always believed in being direct, straight forward - nullI will however in the future be more careful to not 'spam' in the traditional sense - and I apoligize for any problems.

2. I seem to see that your indirect 'spaming' with the use of your tag line - even with prices in it :rolleyes: what is this? you posted 3 times to my 1 time :confused: so it seems as though you indirectly 'spammed' in a 3/1 ratio to mine :)

3. I am not afriad to be contacted directly - my URL, company contact information, including ICQ - I see that you only post your ICQ - what happened to traditional business styles? Name, business contact informations?

Anyway - that's all I have to say for now.. Max

[donger]

Toker- eat rocks. I think what dplay did was self promotion, not spam. If he had taken the text from one of his ads and cut and pasted it into the thread, then that would have been spam. As it were, he was offering his services to somebody who was obviously considering a host.

It's also funny that everybody who is accusing people of spamming seem to have hosting deals in their signatures. They're all just mad b/c somebody came out and talked about what they're offering, instead of trying to delude themselves into thinking that if it's in your sig, and you respond with some bullshit to any relevant posts, just to get your sig up there, then it's WAY different than actually posting a message.
tards.

BTW, I don't know any of these hosting companies, i host all my shit w/ swifwill and candidhosting. However, now toker will accuse me of spamming for saying that, too :D


Originally posted by qualitythumbs:
<STRONG>

So looks like your the real dipshit here...

Jon</STRONG>

LOL! Calling me a dipshit! Don't they teach you the difference between "you're" and "your" in elementary school?

peace!
donger

[chymp]

Why is it so hard to figure out how contractions work? That you + are = you're? Also, they + are = they're, not 'their' or 'there'. That's as elementary as it gets, folks. Anyone who doesn't know that should have their diploma/degree revoked and be forced to repeat the 4th grade. It's funny how people who speak english as a second language get it right most of the time, but hardly any of the native English speakers I see on these boards do.

[munchkin]

why has a post about hosting turned into a grammer/spelling post really guys lets not be so petty as to bring up people's spelling if it is ledgeable then it doesn't matter this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. so why dosen't everyone get back to the point of this post...hosting

just my 2 cents

-munchkin

[Fossil]

from where i see it, DPlay did do "self promotion" but hell, isnt that spam? promoting your own service in a thread where it isnt wanted?


he seemed to want info on blue gravity or hosthead, and in regards to "if anyone has used someone better let me know as well", you loose some of your credibility when you are the owner of the company/work for the company, etc.

and this stupid kiddie attack on Jon because he wasnt paying attention to "proper grammer" is stupid and adolescent, we all know what he meant so dont be an immature bitch about it

i support toker and qualitythumbs in this one

[toker]

Say what you like spam is spam and im not gonna argue about it further. Sure you made a hugh successful company and now you have to sit and spam on AWI all day for another person makes alot of sense.

Like i said what people on AWI say to hurt my feelings wont affect me nor will your 1 star ratings life goes on....

Anyhoe look ma no SiG!

[Much0S]

first of all i would love to know what the moderator point of view is in this.

second, in my view it is simple. I'll try to explain so simple that even dplay understands.

This is a simple question: Hosthead OR Blue gravity
This is an 'OR-OR' question. Answer can be either hosthead, or answer can be blue gravity. Do you see hiendhosting anywhere ? NO. So STOP THE FUCKING SPAM.

Get it ?

[chymp]

It just makes me sick to see that people are so collectively stupid I guess.

Ok, so back to the topic of hosting. I also consider your sig to be a spam, toker. Have you no shame?

[Mole]

Why don't you ladies LOOK at the freaking original question more carefully. :rolleyes:

"also if anyone has used someone better let me know as well."

So, DPlay's post isn't spamming because JAmIeSs did ask for other alternatives.

[jamies]

Oh myyyyyy what have i started....said the little boy......

[Jon]

Originally posted by Mole:
<STRONG>Why don't you ladies LOOK at the freaking original question more carefully. :rolleyes:

"also if anyone has used someone better let me know as well."

So, DPlay's post isn't spamming because JAmIeSs did ask for other alternatives.</STRONG>


Wow glad you pointed that out...Damn me and toker were completely wrong...I thought it said has anyone USED something better...I forget if you own the company you have used it and you tend to give it the highest rating...

And about my grammer and typing skills on here...I have had over 500 posts...Do you really think I am gonna check over each post for grammer and spelling errors? This is a freaken bbs not my damn site.

But anyways everything is resolved with dplay so its all good...

Jon

[ProgGod]

Why is it alays the two bit hosts that are the first to attack someone for spamming?

Ever hear the saying don't throw stones if you live in a glass house?

[Much0S]

YOU call me a two bit host. :eek: Dont make me fucking laugh. :cool:

Apparantley spamming on ever thread is your company strategy ?

[jamies]

ladies ladies please...ohhhhhhhhhh my virgin ears......

[ProgGod]

So then tell us about your facility Muchos?

[donger]

attn: dumbfux
You just look stupid saying "why should i care about grammer/spelling errors?"

it's spelled GRAMMAR

thanks,
donger

[gse]

prog who cares whoz dick is bigger?

go to gym for some workout or something,

why don't we set up live per view cage matches between hosts
the winner takes it all, the loser has to fall

[ProgGod]

My dick is so small, I have to compensate for it in other ways.. :)

[gse]

you need pills from pillsexpert.com

can I give you my referer code?

[ProgGod]

Heh but a tiny dick gives me character

[gse]

"God" + small dick = apocalypse

(did i spell it right?)

[toker]

Prog i never said anything deflamatory against your fucking company name nor you so STFU my words were aimed at one person and their actions.

You say our operation is two bit why because we are a new service??

Well i really suggest think again we are not building a fly by nite hosting company!

Yea think our service is so much less then yours well i think Verio would have a good laugh at that one. Now lets not get into a piss match about size and bandwidth because we already have dual 100mbps connectivity and i dont think thats so much less then your Dual OC3s.

Our site is not even fully open to the public yet but thats ok when it is i know we will get quite a bit of attentin with our promo offers.

I guess it just goes to show some peoples true colors that they have to attack other companies with low blows like "Size Matters" for the service you get.

[ProgGod]

Btw I am not directly targeting you or anyone, but you shouldn't flame someone, if you don't expect to get flamed back.

This goes for you any ANYONE who is looking for a host, the following things are VERY important.

You must have YOUR own facilities, not leasing someone elses. If we have a tech support issue, we have staff with in 5 minutes of our facility at all times. So your problem gets fixed immediately. We even go through the trouble of paying our techs extra money, just to live in appartments we pay for, that are with in walking distance of our facility. So if there is a problem that requires everyones cooperation at 3am, it gets attended too with in 5 minutes.

Secondly you must have YOUR own bandwidth, and your own lines, your own equipment, and your own facility. This allows you to make sure everything is done properly, so your hosting clients aren't suffering if the place you rent space from has issues.

If we want to open up another server room, we can very easily. If someone who pays another host, to host their hosting clients wants more space, it becomes a bargaining process, where they aren't guranteed it.

We built our facility from the ground up, in order to give the customer the best support, the best bandwidth, and the best room for expansion that is possible. We have more OC12s on order, and we are expanding faster then you may believe. We also are finding new ways to offer customers very low rates, so that pricing and quality can go hand in hand.


if you are getting a new host ask them these questions:

1. Do you own your facility
2. What tier1 providers do you buy bandwidth from, keeping in mind cogent and level3 have basically all but announced they are going out of business.
3. Do you offer full 24/7 support. In a situation how fast can a tech be in front of your machine, opening it up fixing hardware.
4. What percentage of usage do you run your bandwidth at. Hosts that run their usage levels too close cause your sites to be slow at times.
5. How much room do you have for expansion.
6. What is your knowledge of various operating systems, which operating systems do you recommend? If you have a hard to find problem, you want to know they can fix it.

After asking your host those questions, you have alot better idea of how good of a host they are. I am not saying we are the only good host, there are several out there. But its far to common to watch people jump from host to host, because they sign on with inferior hosts.

[gse]

Originally posted by ProgGod:
<STRONG>

Secondly you must have YOUR own bandwidth, and your own lines, your own equipment, and your own facility.

I am not saying we are the only good host, there are several out there. But its far to common to watch people jump from host to host, because they sign on with inferior hosts.</STRONG>

number one you never own the lines, you rent it from your backbone. You may own your coax cables to them but you do not have your own backbone do you, prog? So don't say shit about "my own lines"

as far as people jump from host to host, it's just business. Today you think you god, tomorrow you could be nada.

&lt;back to the wonderful world of Linux&gt;
:D

[ProgGod]

Speaking of linux, its not nearly as good of an OS as freebsd and solaris for webserving. Its the windows NT of unixes :)

As for your own lines, those are purchase thorough the phone company, same as the lines owned by ANY backbone provider, I suggest you get your fact straight :) Unless your are QWEST, MFS, etc its doubtful anyone owns their own lines..

[gse]

Originally posted by ProgGod:
<STRONG>Speaking of linux, its not nearly as good of an OS as freebsd and solaris for webserving. Its the windows NT of unixes :)

As for your own lines, those are purchase thorough the phone company, same as the lines owned by ANY backbone provider, I suggest you get your fact straight :) Unless your are QWEST, MFS, etc its doubtful anyone owns their own lines..</STRONG>

that's excatly what I'm saying about the lines...
;)

about linux, wake up, you drunk, mister. NT for unix, haha. You just need to know how to set it up right.

[toker]

My phone company/ISP bellsouth.net leases 50% of all dedicted from willtel network so not even one of the largest bell corps in the nation owns all their own lines.

Maybe you dont understand we do own the servers just not the facility or lines but who cares if we own some cable or not this does not mean we sell inferior service. Verio is far from inferior as a facility and their data lines which can flip a switch to provide us more bandwidth at any given moment.

We can also have techs as im sure you know Verio has 24/7 techs on site and 24hr monitering available for our clients servers. Not only that but since we have techs on both sides we can provide 2 levels of tech service at no extra cost to our customers.

Its like this folks a wholesaler can sell the same product cheaper in most cases because they buy and sell in much larger quantity. We dont sell anything under 50GB period to keep down overhead and privide bigger savings.

Now since we buy more sell cheaper and get a better price we can give you the same LEVEL of service. I have myself been a webmaster for quite a few years outside adult before i got into adult and paid $4 a gig for service that would make you cry.

Most every large host like hosting.com right down to the smaller guy cannot always fix a problem instantly. I dont care what anyone says ive sat and waited for fixit tickets that took over 12hrs just to get thru the que with big hosts. Ive had FTP problems with that same host when i was on a dam Solaris box paying $4 a gig.

I know as a webmaster and somone who has been thru it all to know what can happen and how it all works. This is not meaning i can provide better service thru my experiance but it has tought me quite a bit about the system and how premium is not always better.

Most people do not even understand how much goes into hosting besides a server that plugs into the socket and a network cable. You have routers you have load balancers you have firewalls among other things which all are just as importaint as any single server.

I know a colo built underground in florida to protect them from hurricanes and such theres always something different each guy can offer you period. You can go with the bigger guy or the smaller guy but if you get the same level of service you shouldnt have to pay more.

For those who say im wrong i challange you to buy the smallest plan at any of the biggest hosts on the web and hosting.com is one of them among others. Pay the $10-15 and put it to the test so you can see how great the tech service is.

Even when you call at 2am you will still get level 2 or 3 support who can only fix minor issues level 1 support in most cases is not 24/7. So you will get 24/7 support by phone or email but that will be a guy who knows how to take down notes for the level 1 to fix when they get in.

Now this is why mainstream hosts dont want adult webmasters because they demand more service generally and will most allways require a higher level of support period. Not to mention they cant stick as many guys running trade scripts on virtual machines as they can guys who dont run scripts that use resources all the time.

There ive said my piece and i wont try to prove anything further about this issue or whos cock is bigger and why it got that way. :)

[gse]

and what's wrong with hosting nonadult?

I think that's where the money is now, lol

[toker]

Not a dam thing we will host it all (except you spammers) but adult websites do normally use more resources then the mainstream.

[gse]

sorry man, nonadult is mine :D

[donger]

toker- re: your earlier post..

is "deflamatory" something meant to extinguish someone who's on fire? Is english your native language? if it isn't, fine. If it is, you got the stupids pretty bad, chum.

[toker]

donger thats great man your better then spellcheck i think you should apply for a job with MS. :D

[Much0S]

Originally posted by gse:
<STRONG>and what's wrong with hosting nonadult?

I think that's where the money is now, lol</STRONG>


Exactly GSE :)

As for prog 'god' ofcourse we've own facilities. We house in TeleCity in Amsterdam, well known for being the most high class, high tech, and expensive, internet hotel in amsterdam. There we have a fully redundant network that transits directly to 5 transits (6th and 7th coming). I know what i have, i know what i do, i dont need to spam constantly to get my buck :P