What do you think dialer rates should be?

[dialerking.com]

do you think you are getting paid enough by your dialer company?
whats fair -whats poor?

whats the best rate out there?

[mnh]

Hi dialerking.com plz move all your spam to the spam forum.

[neocorp]

Well, considering your payout, I feel, you are really the GREATEST payout man, yes, up to 70 cents wow, when GIB resellers are between 35 & 37 you offer rates two times bigger !!

now, let's see a bit closer, considering, the surfer is billed $8 when he uses your dialer and only $3 when using the GIB dialer, we can clearly see that you are taking much more money than GIB in fact, considering the previous rates, surfers using your dialer should pay a maximum of $6 ... now, some calculation : 8-6 = $2 ... where are those $2 gone ??? In webmasters' pockets ? NAH ... In dialerking pocket ? Yes, maybe...

Ok, here is a last calculation : maybe not everyone will understand but anyway... hehe
8/3 = 2.66 (cost for the surfer ratio between dialerking over GIB)
GIB resellers, paying $0.35 , then dialerking should pay : 0.35*2.66 = $0.93 FLAT RATE ...

Come back with those rates and maybe more webmasters will try your opportunity.


Thanks

[mnh]

Hi neocorp that was a good post man :-)
keep it cool :-))

[Dan S]

good = $3.00 and more
fair = $2.00 - $3.00
poor = $1.99 and less

[sexxring]

LoL! True True MnH

[basschick]

from l.a. the gib dialer charges $6.99 a minute. i have seen it on my phone bill when i wanted to see if my dialer worked.

dialerking, i'm sure you already know your rate is higher, but i came to this business from audiotext, and more people have 900 blocking than webmasters realize. there are going to be less calls.

also men are careful of their 900 billing on their phone bill. their wives are much more likely to question a 900 call than a regular call.

[nic]

nicely said, hence, if you get rid of the 900 number stuff more people would be getting about 60% more minutes that would mean more webmasters promoting your dialer. Maybe?

Just my thoughts,
nic
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[neocorp]

Basschick,

That's true GIB was at $7 before, but the one i resell from them are at less than $3, tell me if you want a sample.


See you

[global internet billing]

In terms of price points to the end user from the USA, we can offer you a few options. From $2.99/min and up. Just ask your GIB re-seller which price point you would like, and we customize that particular dialer for you.

Thank you.
GIB Inc.

[richard]

Mr GIB, do the payment options vary between end user rate, and by how much?

[Doctor Dre]

Yo man you are fucking annoying !!! Always spamming ... man go to the spam board . rich plz kick his ass or something . I found his program look good at first but hes a fucking spam bitch =p

thats fucking clear its going to spam man ! lol we are not ass
what u think ?

[Doctor Dre]

This post may look weird but mr dialer ko*k piss me off .

[global internet billing]

Richard-

We pay the IP's the same rate on the USA no matter which route (price point to end user) they use for USA.

Probably doesn't make sense to you, but it's more complicated than most realize.

I would suggest testing out different price points, and seeing what works best for you.
Conversion rates are a complex equation of rates to end user, detail of price disclosure, 900 calls or international calls, the quality of programming in the dialer software itself, the reliabilty of the network and of course, codesigned dialers or non codesigned dialers, and promotion from the marketing end......


And if the stats are low quality, then you may not be given credit for calls that should be attributed to you. Even if the conversion rate is through the roof, if your stats are no good than the above is a moot point.

Out of respect for all the webmasters who read this board, I am going to stop posting for a long while. I don't want to have to sink to level of pissing, slandering and spamming to gain more business. I trust we all have better things to do with our time than that.

Thank you.
GIB Inc.

[Dialup2]

Just a quick warning:

Companies that use 900# are prone to chargebacks, they take 2-3 months to come, and will add up more than the actual money they make.

This is because:

AT&T still charge there % on the call even if there is a chargeback, so say on a $5 number, they get back $3.00, at&t get $1.50 per minute, weather or not there is a chargeback.

SO when chargebacks go over 50% or so, the figures start to run in negative numbers, and as many of the 900# are new the business, they are still making there money - they are not interested in the dialer companies. I know this because our company tried this, and have seen the consequences.

Anyway, just a word - and a risk!

[dialerking.com]

if you are with a dialer that does not use a 900 in the usa you are risking to lose all of your money.
The reason is simple. if a surfer complains about their phone bill and cannot get their money back, then the ftc hears about it and the rest you all ready know ....gib and verity story. check the ftc notice board. it explains the whole thing.

people are still owed money from gib since sept 2000.

need i say anymore??

[inside]

burgerking, who does your billing ??

[dialerking.com]

dialup2... no matter the charge backs we pay the webmasters.

[magnatique]

although the guy is sometimes spammy, this thread to me looks like an attempt to serve the user better http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

[playa]

users can not dispute their bill,,,,,

yes its true that there only option is to contact the FTC or have a telephone tester test your line for possible wiretaps..

but what is the FTC gonna say about one persons complaint...

only reason FTC got verity is because they had like 400 complaints in like a couple of days...that prompt the FTC to respond..

aslong as your dialer is complaint to FTC rules which my dialer is it'll be alright..


i am speaking from experience folks...i racked up a 30 charge and tried to dispute..
you'll have a better chance trying to suck a golf ball through a garden hose...


playa
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[Web]

Dialup2.com , before posting here, please pay me, I sent you several emails, and for nothing. No reply, nada, niente, rien, nichts ... And NO CHECK from you ... It's more than your minimum of $50, and it was for December and January. So, please check your emails, don't ask me to tell you who I am here, and pay your debts. I wouldn't have posted such a message here, if you had paid me, so no use to start saying I'm slandering, and tell me your account. Just pay your webmasters.

[dialerking.com]

one more thing.... this 900 blocking thing...the public have not thought about blocking their modem lines for 900#

just a point i should mention.

[playa]

lol,,,,,dialerking

obviously you don't know that most surfers use their same telephone and internet on the same line.....its pretty much standard for people to have 900 block on their line...most of times you have request telco's to unblock 900 numbers so they can use 900 numbers.....

[dialerking.com]

playa...
we see thousands of mins a day from the usa. we also tried gibs dialer for about a year. and its all the same with international vs 1900. but there is one difference ftc closes international routes more so than 900.

and when the ftc closes a route and freezes bank accounts, wood ducks like you don't get your money.

why take the risk...didnt you learn with the verity thing already?

wake up

[peaved]

DialerKing,

Stop posting to the public boards as you are undermining your own resellers and webmasters. Such activities will only result in your resellers using other suppliers with a more responsible attitude.

I am very weary now of Dialerking seeing all these posts, as you clearly don't have your resellers interests at heart, only your own.

Peaved.

[magnatique]

seriously, King-O-Spamo, I've had enough..

first few posts I thought were legits, but now it's getting out of hand... closing all your threads.