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PEter I
01-27-2001, 08:32 PM
Have you seen PornDigger http://www.porndigger.com/ ? It is FULL of underage porn!! These people make me sick http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/mad.gif Chances are we'll see a case against porndigger as we've seen against napster, and the program will be closed and the creators may be thrown to jail for distributing of kiddie porn...

AzteK
01-27-2001, 08:41 PM
Does it disturb you? Why bitch about it? why talk to people about it? We should just do something sick shit like that. It's simple as reporting.

People. If you see it, report it please!!!


AzteK

AzteK
01-27-2001, 08:43 PM
*about

PEter I
01-27-2001, 08:47 PM
see what, report what, report who? we actually need to make our minds up who's responsible in the case - a member of the program sharing kiddie porn or porndigger letting him do it...

Saddam Hussein
01-27-2001, 08:58 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PEter I:
Have you seen PornDigger [URL=http://www.porndigger.com/]? QUOTE]


Yes, I downloaded and played with it.

Porndigger is has many illegal images.

underage, yes http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

copyrighted, yes http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

They do have a link for reporting.
http://www.porndigger.com/reportchildporn.html

You report the "nick" of the user who has this illegal material.

I do not think this will work. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

When you go thru the sign-up, the only piece of information they ask you is a valid email address.

You can have a dynamite-mail to sign up http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

That means everybody is annonymous.

PEter I
01-27-2001, 09:10 PM
Most people won't go through such a long form to report a motherfucker.
And he can put something inexistant like teuhjddfyd@gfjgd.com in email field and stay completely anonymous, unless he uses a static ip address.
And remember napster case? They accussed napster itself, not its users, in distributing copyrighted materials...

Saddam Hussein
01-27-2001, 09:23 PM
Very good points.

Also, have you clicked on any of their ads?

They have more pop ups than a cj http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

The program crashed!!

As far as copyrights with regard to napster, it appears that porndigger is not worried about violations on their end.

If they are worried, then why did they go forword with such a program?

AzteK
01-27-2001, 09:24 PM
ok very good points here - I personnally think Porndigger or any other P2P software is responsible for making it even easier to distribute child porn. I have seen "You" blaming a TOPLIST owner of having links to CP sites. Yes, he does not have CP on his site but he is making it accessable and easier to users to find this kind of material. In this case Porn Digger is Link between CP and the sick users. Also keep in mind reporting one user DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. By busting that user, you might have saved someone from getting abused. Maybe that person could be your own kid, little sister or... There are many other aspects to look at too. So if you care enough to post a message here on the board, you can fill out a form no problem. That is if you care enough. And if you don't, I wouldn't complain about it. SO PLEASE DO SOMETHING.

Saddam Hussein
01-27-2001, 09:30 PM
NO, P2P software is responsible for FILTRE this material.

I am sure if they can write this porndigger code, they can write some script to filtre.

No, I am no programmer, so don't ask me for this.

If their plan was to make money, then I am sure they would have thought of this problem.

Maybe they did not.

Shit, this is only my opinion.

AzteK
01-27-2001, 09:41 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Saddam Hussein:
NO, P2P software is responsible for FILTRE this material.

I am sure if they can write this porndigger code, they can write some script to filtre.

No, I am no programmer, so don't ask me for this.

If their plan was to make money, then I am sure they would have thought of this problem.

Maybe they did not.

Shit, this is only my opinion.</font>


OK, how can code tell a 10 year old from a 18 year old?????? come on...just a little common sence helps

If I'm incorrect please nail me

AzteK

Saddam Hussein
01-27-2001, 09:59 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by AzteK:



If I'm incorrect please nail me

AzteK</font>

No, I can not nail you complete.

Yes, why not some kind of code to filtre words?

This is the hard one. Human, they would need somebody to review all images.

Two problems with this;

1.) Who would want this job?

2.) Doesn't this defeat the whole purpose of peer to peer software, which is what made napster so succesful?

PEter I
01-28-2001, 02:39 AM
Well, I have a couple of ideas on how to organize the whole program and get rid of CP and other illegal materials and protect our kids quite easily.
Personally I think the concept of peer2peer is so great, that it could be another big thing in our industry, like link lists, per-clicks programs, top lists, TGPs and then dialers. I also have several juicy domains like picturexchange.com and pictureswap.net, so if anyone's building his own program and interested in the domains and ideas feel free to contact me webmaster@freesexnet.com. Very serious inquiries only.

AzteK
01-28-2001, 08:31 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by PEter I:
Well, I have a couple of ideas on how to organize the whole program and get rid of CP and other illegal materials and protect our kids quite easily.
Personally I think the concept of peer2peer is so great, that it could be another big thing in our industry, like link lists, per-clicks programs, top lists, TGPs and then dialers. I also have several juicy domains like picturexchange.com and pictureswap.net, so if anyone's building his own program and interested in the domains and ideas feel free to contact me webmaster@freesexnet.com. Very serious inquiries only.</font>

So from what I see you are not really concerned about the CP. What you are concerned is making your $$

PEter I
01-28-2001, 09:38 AM
Wrong. I do, that's why I started this topic. I just have an idea how to easily get rid of CP in such programs.

Saddam Hussein
01-28-2001, 09:53 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by PEter I:
Wrong. I do, that's why I started this topic. I just have an idea how to easily get rid of CP in such programs.</font>

Please share with us!

I am very excited about the possabliities of peer 2 peer.

Many adult webmasters are afraid, but I think this is the next big thing on the net.

Dan S
01-28-2001, 10:09 AM
I have also no clue how somebody could use that for money, other than with agressive banner ads?

Dan

Saddam Hussein
01-28-2001, 10:23 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dan S:

I have also no clue how somebody could use that for money, other than with agressive banner ads?

Dan</font>

What do you think their traffic quality is?

TGP, better?

Any ideas??

AzteK
01-28-2001, 10:33 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by PEter I:
Wrong. I do, that's why I started this topic. I just have an idea how to easily get rid of CP in such programs.</font>

OK read the thread again. See where it started and where is has gone.

AzteK
01-28-2001, 10:42 AM
*it :-)

Dan S
01-28-2001, 10:55 AM
AzteK,
what is the problem?

He said he has an idea to filter sick shit.
And he has the idea to make it comercial.

So that 2 different points.

Just because there IS cp on the web you do not stay away from porn. Right?

Just because the people at PD do not take care of people sharing cp doesnt mean that Peter has the same intentions...right? http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif


I can`t think of a way to make this thing worth my while. So I would be interested in the idea.

Dan

PEter I
01-28-2001, 11:02 AM
I think p2p can if not kill completely but at least affect greatly free adult sites. Some of us will loose our webmaster jobs. Why go to a tgp and browse through tons of galleries when you can do a search in a p2p program and get what you're looking for? Of course the program itself must be perfect. If porndigger will survive possible cases against it then we'll see the monsters of the industry such as Sextracker coming in with their products.
I think it's quite easy to make money with it, you just need to sell sex toys, or LIVE interactive sex shows, or dialers, or advertise join4free, penis enlargement programs, virtualgirls... you name it!

Fart
01-29-2001, 04:23 AM
I believe the traffic quality will be (at least a bit) worse than even tgp because these users (p-to-p) have gone through the procedure of installing that software, so they have gone further than a tgp user (just finding and visting a site instead of finding, visiting, downloading and installing a software). And I wouldn´t say that it would be easy to sell them something, possible maybe but not easy.

wolfshade
01-29-2001, 09:18 AM
Peter we can always build a search able TGP(in teh proces of doing that right now)

My point being we can build a site to be easier, faster and of a higher quality then Porndigger can provide http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

My 2 cents

Wolfshade

Avatar
01-29-2001, 10:06 AM
Actually if you look around the net then such things already exist. Have you ever visited 1 of the 40.000+ newsgroups? There are tons of newsgroups related to porn. Just look around and you can easily download thousands of pics for free without the ads and I believe everybody have access to newsgroups?

/Peter
UIN#58556083
Dialerfun.com

Saddam Hussein
01-29-2001, 11:16 AM
Wolfshade,

Peer 2 Peer's will be coming out left and right pretty soon.

They are the future.

One day the browser will be diminished or obselete, and with it, most webmasters.

The smart webmasters will not be fighting peer 2 peer and instead would to to capitalize on them to stay alive.

wolfshade
01-29-2001, 01:51 PM
I agree P2P definately has future.

But I do not believe it will replace the website as we know it.

Sure lot's of things will be done through P2P proggies(transferring files just to name one)

But when it comes to entertainment and last time I checked that's still the business we're in, will also be done through the traditional websites.

As for embracing it, I'm going to do a little test(Not a nice one I'll admit that*LOL*)

I got me porndigger, and made a lot of copies from my dialer. renamed it into anything enticing you can think of. Now to see how many times it gets downloaded and how many times actualy used http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Wolfshade

PEter I
01-29-2001, 07:30 PM
News groups are good, but not many people know about them.
I've seen several attempt of implementing search to tgps, but as far as i know they didn't have much success.
Anyway a tgp with a search is just 'another website'. I think at the beginning a user will give more attention to a peer2peer program because it differs from all usual ways of getting porn he got used to. And as the system grows it will be more and more easy to find anything using it.

Shady
01-30-2001, 11:14 AM
I agree that peer to peer is the future of our industry. Just look at napster - it is easy to find any music you want using it.