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qm
01-29-2001, 07:13 PM
How can thehun own the word hun ?
Should sex.com img src everyone with sex in there domain name or try to sue them ?

shap
01-29-2001, 07:34 PM
Read up on trademark laws before posting something uneducated like this.

Shap

bunnies
01-29-2001, 08:39 PM
LOL good one. If you want to look it up. I think trademark law is under the U.C.C if not its somewere http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

shane
01-30-2001, 02:21 AM
yea, feel sorry for the people who own http://hun.com a 3letter 1 word domain is worth $10000s, yet they will never be able to sell it cause the hun think he owns it, lol, im gunna puke.

XM
01-30-2001, 04:35 AM
Getting a bit tired of this...Let's go to:
http://www.uspto.gov/web/menu/tm.html

Go to Trademark Electronic Search System, then to New User Form Search, put desired item in Search box and you will see what is registered and WHAT FOR. The Hun has the word "Hun" registered for "IC 038. US 100 101 104. G & S: PROVIDING ON-LINE CHAT ROOMS FOR TRANSMISSION OF MESSAGES AMONG COMPUTER USERS CONCERNING ADULT TOPICS; PROVIDING ON-LINE ELECTRONIC BULLETIN BOARDS FOR TRANSMISSION OF MESSAGES AMONG COMPUTER USERS IN THE NATURE OF NEWSPAPER AND MAGAZINE PERSONALS ADVERTISEMENTS"
and
"Services IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: ON-LINE ORDERING SERVICES FEATURING GREETING CARDS; ON-LINE RETAIL STORE SERVICES FEATURING ADULT VIDEOS, TOYS, BOOKS, DOLLS, NOVELTIES, JEWELRY, OILS AND CREAMS FOR PERSONAL USE, GIFTS AND SEXUAL AIDS; DISSEMINATION OF ADVERTISING FOR OTHERS VIA AN ON-LINE ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS NETWORK "

Another guy has registered the word "Hun" for jewelery or what , another else for advertising services.

You can register the word "Hun" for anything else, but you can not use it as Trademark for purposes which are already registered by other people.

My pure non-lawyer opinion
XM

baddog
01-30-2001, 05:11 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by XM:
My pure non-lawyer opinion
XM</font>

and a correct one at that. well done.

Robert
01-30-2001, 05:38 AM
XM, great work!
It seems that former Czechoslovaks are the cleverest people in the whole wide world http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Wetlap
01-30-2001, 10:10 AM
dont make a war with thehun and dont spam everywhere about this img src you will lost this battle... man..
he fucks the laws and everything man he has got 1-4million imp./day...
do u know how much is that?
he can destroy everybody....

hellfire
01-30-2001, 12:44 PM
i LOVE that!

some balding horny computer user from the netherlands (isnt that a thrid world country?) succesfully set up the biggest fucking porn site on the net

if he can do it, anyone can!

Mr Coctail
01-30-2001, 01:43 PM
hellfire GO BACK TO SCHOOL YOU IDIOT&gt;
the netherlands is NUMBER 3 at worlds
most internet USERS you asshole. It's NO
third WORLD country you fucking IDIOT.
AMSTERDAMMMMMMMMMMMMM RULES


and you suck you fucking asshole

go BACK TO SCHOOL

ragnar
01-30-2001, 02:40 PM
Yeah i agree with Mr Coctail the Netherlands are the best so fuck off Helffire is there a school on your zulu island ?

battuss
01-30-2001, 03:49 PM
yup http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

The Hun
01-30-2001, 03:49 PM
XM, thanks. That "other guy" is Hung's Jewelry from Hawaii. We agreed on him using the trademark "hun" for selling jewelry as long as he never would object to me selling jewelry with the name "hun" myself. We agreed and have a signed contact about it.

I'm fanatic when it comes to protecting my name, but I'm reasonable. Why go after a jewelry store that's selling diamonds. That won't confuse anybody and is in no way unfair competition.

Oh, and I'm far from bolding ;-). But hellfire, you're right, if I can do it, anybody can.

battuss
01-30-2001, 03:54 PM
Hey ragnar, i used to live in Vlissingen.
I still come in Middelburg every weekend.

magnatique
01-30-2001, 06:22 PM
yeah right... like 1 million people to your webpage, without trade, is easy to do http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

LOL.. good one hun!

Mr Coctail
01-31-2001, 01:05 AM
hey battuss, from amsterdam? Cool me too

The Hun
01-31-2001, 05:47 AM
Magnatique. Never said it was easy, but I did, so why wouldn't anybody else able to do it? I'm not THAT smart ;-)

Dan S
01-31-2001, 06:12 AM
Hehe,
you have been smart enough for the right idea at the right time... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

It`s pretty hard to build such a loyal and strong bookmark base these days.

I can remember your yellow pages have been huge already when I started adult sites.
Thats back in 1996.

Ok, I am trying now to get closer to you http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Dan

candidpublishinginc
01-31-2001, 07:01 AM
"XM, thanks. That "other guy" is Hung's Jewelry from Hawaii. We agreed on him using the trademark "hun" for selling jewelry as long as he never would object to me selling jewelry with the name "hun" myself. We agreed and have a signed contact about it. "

How is Hung's even remotely related to the word Hun? So any word that has the letters H-U-N in it is a trademark violation huh?

Robert
01-31-2001, 07:07 AM
I will be big like hun early :o)
I'm growing 200.000 hits a month.

ragnar
01-31-2001, 07:55 AM
So battus when youre in Vlissingen or Middelburg give me a note and we can drink some beer togheter i know a lot of good bars

Rich
01-31-2001, 08:03 AM
Netherlands? third world? Obviously you've never been there.. If you think the US is a wired culture, you should see Amsterdam, internet cafe's on vitually every corner (they have one the has over 650 terminals!)

Not to mention it's one of the coolest places in the world, I'm going back in March and I can't wait...

As far as the Hun goes, no one is above the law, but some people have a better command over it, that command is money. And you better believe that the Hun has some cash and some good lawyers to spend it on.. We can sit here pissing in the wind all day over this, but what it boils down to is that he HAS registered a trademark, and, if you all remember the playboy case a while back, just the use of a trademark as a search engine keyword can get you shut down..

My .045 cents..
Rich

XM
01-31-2001, 08:23 AM
Robert,
my simple math told me that with your current daily traffic and average grow 200.000/month you will reach The Hun as early as in 11.9 years, so get prepared ! http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Just joking, I am still too lazy to start my own TGP...

candidpublishinginc,
That guy from Hawaii has also registered the word "HUN", but for another product:
"Word Mark: HUN
Goods and Services IC 014. US 002 027 028 050. G & S: Gold, silver, platinum, plated jewelry, jewelry findings, necklaces. FIRST USE: 19970617. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19970617 "

Just go and have a look at that trademark site.

I dont think that any word containing letters H-U-N is under Trademark protection, because then for example www.hungry.com (http://www.hungry.com) could have also problems if they started TGP. Not talking about sexHUNgryjoes.com ...
It just can't contain the word "HUN", but it can contain letters "HUN". Heh, quite clear now, isn't it? http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

XM

Robert
01-31-2001, 08:36 AM
XM,
only 11.9 years ... I have to go to buy new server now http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
but look at this:
before 6 months I was 6000 times smaller then hun, but today I'm only 25 times smaller http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Mr Coctail
01-31-2001, 09:23 AM
Rich, there are lotsa Internet cafes,
the biggest one of europe has lately
been build here... but on every corner?
Are you sure you do'n't mean coffeeshops http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Rich
01-31-2001, 09:29 AM
I was just there in November, and near my hotel in the Rembrantsplein I counted at least 4.. not counting all the coffeeshops that have internet connections (and MANY do). and they're on every corner too.. hehe smoke good hash and check your e-mail... there's the life..

The Hun
01-31-2001, 05:06 PM
candidpublishinginc. We had to go through the contract with them 'cause Hung's sells jewelry. So do I. The Hunstore sells cockrings. That's qualified as jewelry. Also, The Hun is getting pretty big. I know for instance Playboy sells silver jewelry with their little bunny. I wanted to make sure that if Hung's would get a trademark for selling jewelry that I wounldn't get in legal problems if I wanted to sell jewelry myself somewhere along the line. So we agreed on signing a contract stating they could use the trademark for jewelry as long as they didn't object to me doing the same thing. Mutual agreement. Was dealt with in 5 minutes. Both parties were happy in this one.

magnatique
01-31-2001, 07:33 PM
Robert... I don't think you understand the concept here..

it's not actually about having as much traffic as the hun... that, anybody can do.... well, with money, intelligence, and hard work....


But what I believe no one can do is have that 750k-1000k people comming EVERYDAY from bookmarks and type-in and linkback to your webpage... that is to say, have 1 million of happy followers, of people that KNOW your name... people that TRUST you..

so whenever someone complains about hun not listing galleries, or not allowing some free hosts, well, he's got to keep up with the expectation, cuz those 1000k people trust him to do just that...

that's the hard part..


and hell, I'm the first to be pissed not to get listed LOL... it's good traffic when Mr Hun hammers me with 100k/day to my galleries http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif


But one thing I gotta say that's nice with hun, is he's the biggest, but one of the easiest to contact... I got surprised when he replied to a gallery I sent to tell me why it got declined http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif (too much publicity!)

NickD
01-31-2001, 09:56 PM
Mag, youre such an ass kisser lol ..why dont you give him a blow job while you there! http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Palleib
01-31-2001, 10:02 PM
Mag´s not an ass kisser.
I´m a newbie, I´ve been writing a few question to thehun, like why it was declined which freehost they recommend, and got an answer right away.
The hun is by far the best of the best.
And don´t say I´m kissing up, becourse the hun would´t have an idea who I am.

NickD
01-31-2001, 10:08 PM
Palleib, I was kidding Mag btw http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

hmm...though he is an ass kisser and so you are http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif hehe

Liquid Silver
01-31-2001, 10:17 PM
Mr Coctail LOL, is a little retarted LOL. Just like anyone in cyper space who freaks out during typing LOL. There needs to be an internet anger management group LOL. For power tripping geeks behind screens LOL.
Man this is great stuff LOL. I'm going to have to dig deeper into this one....LOL... Hey Mr Coctail LOL, who is your writer? LOL. This is just all so......well...LOL, don't you think?
LOL-
Liquid Silver.........LOL

snow
01-31-2001, 11:49 PM
From what i have seen the Hun seems like a pretty cool guy.

Rod
02-01-2001, 04:09 AM
He is cool...I e-mailed him some times ago, just to know some tips on how to make a TGP as big as The Hun, with no trades....he replied me with great info http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

I,m sure no other BIG TGP webmasters would even think of replying someone asking that...


He's really nice.

richard
02-01-2001, 04:19 AM
nothing wrong with ass kissing.

*slurp*

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

candidpublishinginc
02-01-2001, 05:41 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by The Hun:
candidpublishinginc. We had to go through the contract with them 'cause Hung's sells jewelry. So do I. The Hunstore sells cockrings. That's qualified as jewelry. Also, The Hun is getting pretty big. I know for instance Playboy sells silver jewelry with their little bunny. I wanted to make sure that if Hung's would get a trademark for selling jewelry that I wounldn't get in legal problems if I wanted to sell jewelry myself somewhere along the line. So we agreed on signing a contract stating they could use the trademark for jewelry as long as they didn't object to me doing the same thing. Mutual agreement. Was dealt with in 5 minutes. Both parties were happy in this one. </font>

Fair enough. I was just a little confused about Hung's and Hun thing. It makes perfect sense now.

Dreamer
02-01-2001, 06:23 AM
No really connected to this theme, but it about trademarks.
This morning I read in newspapers that some guy placed an trade mark on :-( , yea, you read it right, good old "smiley". He sued 7 000 000 surfers because they used this sign in their e-mails. MORON!

Shovel
02-01-2001, 06:52 AM
Thing is, with a lot of these trademark issues, cease and desist letters etc. it's just corporate chancers trying to shit you up into giving over an extra source of traffic. I had one such letter FedExed to me last year from a FUCKING HUGE multinational company who said that I was infringing on their trademark with one of my pornstar sites and that I should hand over the domain within two weeks blah blah blah. When I checked search totals for keywords using the GoTo search tool it showed that 60000-odd people were searching for the porn star's name and less than a thousand for their poxy product. I contacted my lawyer who drafted a letter telling them to kiss my chuddies and I've never heard a thing since. And it'd be a cold day in hell before I ever bought anything made by them HAHAHA http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/smilies/thefinger.gif

Killah
02-01-2001, 07:07 AM
OK, a question comes up in my little brain...
I own thehun.web.
If the ICANN comes up one day with the decision to get the .web domains started, the domain will be an object of interest, that's for sure.
Now if I don't use the domain for the adult sector now, and not for anything else, no page... and sell it when it is of interest and value for somebody, did I break one of the copyrights ? I don't think so, because The Hun copyrighted the word "hun" for adult purposes... But there will be no sie on that domain until it's sold... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Fart
02-01-2001, 07:28 AM
Hey was that the Hun posting here? Cool, I knew this is going to be one of the better places.

Question to the Hun:

If I had lets say 70,000 licensed fresh pics and a server with fast redundant 3 MBit connectivity, could I have 1 or more galleries listed every single day without paying an arm and a leg? E.g. just providing good quality fresh pics plus the bandwidth http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Some link sites and tgp´s offer such deals to "trusted" webmasters. I saw somewhere prices for the Hun like 10 listings for 1,000 or so but $100 for 1 gallery, plus the bandwidth, that could work of course, but then again, it might not.

Shovel
02-01-2001, 07:38 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Killah:
OK, a question comes up in my little brain...
I own thehun.web.
If the ICANN comes up one day with the decision to get the .web domains started, the domain will be an object of interest, that's for sure.
Now if I don't use the domain for the adult sector now, and not for anything else, no page... and sell it when it is of interest and value for somebody, did I break one of the copyrights ? I don't think so, because The Hun copyrighted the word "hun" for adult purposes... But there will be no sie on that domain until it's sold... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif</font>

Okay, I am by no stretch of any fevered imagination a solicitor, but...

The purpose of the Anti-CyberSquating Consumer Protection Act (ACPA) is

"...to provide clarity in the law for trademark owners by prohibiting the bad-faith and abusive registration of distinctive marks as Internet domain names with the intent to profit from the goodwill associated with such marks..."

Killah
02-01-2001, 09:44 AM
Don't get we wrong about the domain story, I offered him to give out the domain for free allready half a year ago.
I really don't care if I get 1 or 2 grands out of that stuff... I will give it into the teddy-bear-fund he runs, that's my word.
But it's a question of the right and I'm not the person that is kissing someones butt just because he has some traffic...

magnatique
02-01-2001, 10:21 AM
yeah nick, you're just jaleaous because i'm not kissing yours :P


nah, really, I'm just expressing my respect... he's doing well for everybody, surfer and webmasters alike...

same thing goes for zilla... except zilla is automated in his responses hehe...

But even if I'm kissing his ass, it's not gonna change the fact that I don't design my pages for Hun, and he doesn't list too comercialised galleries... so once in a while, when I do have a gallery that's to his standards, well, he'll list me if it fits in....

thing is, it's my choice to make the most sales, and I see TheHun.com as a "bonus" on my daily work... for I know I make FPAs... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Hope that clarrifies Nick...
now you can kiss mine NickyBoy....
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

The Hun
02-01-2001, 12:27 PM
Killah... I thought that name was transferred already. Didn't we talk about that a while back?

Anyway, if there's a site up on there that legally uses the word "the hun", so if it can justify the name of 'the hun' without violating a trademark it won't be a problem. If you own the domain and sell it I'm pretty sure it can be easily made a cybersquatting case. ICANN probably will give me the domain if I wanted to, but I thought we already talked about this... could be wrong ;-)

Killah
02-01-2001, 03:13 PM
Yeah, Steve emailed me once about it but never got back to me...
Anyway, I was wondering about the legal side of that story... If I wouldn't use the domain as an adult site and sell it... Why am I responsible for the things this guy does with his new domain ? Then he's the one breaking your trademarks.
Seems like a HUUUUUUUGE Teddybear is comming your way soon... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

The Hun
02-02-2001, 05:31 AM
Killah. Depends on what price is attached to it. It could easily be explained as cybersquatting. If there will be a site on there I think I could even get the name even if it's non-adult. If it's confusing to people it's unfair competition. Don't know the details though.

Have you registered this domain with a real e-mail address? I can start the trasfer if you want. We'll figure out a way to make up for your registration costs.

Killah
02-02-2001, 09:47 AM
Contact me at ICQ 436541.
No need to discuss these things here.

The Hun
02-03-2001, 03:19 AM
True... could you drop me an e-mail? Don't use ICQ... thehun@thehun.net

Mr Coctail
02-03-2001, 06:32 AM
lol, Killah, you almost got his UIN http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Hey Liquid, lol, haha, lol, haha, lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

basschick
02-03-2001, 07:29 AM
zilla isn't always automated... whenever i send a question about why a gallery wasn't listed, or about a new gallery format, nelvac emails me right back http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Muff
02-03-2001, 08:04 AM
Killah what number are you in the Que, lol, j/k.

A whole 50 posts without any flaming, not bad at all.

PC Has a 306 thread post going over there about the Hun. Maybe we should keep this going for another year and see if the Hun is still the Big Kid on the block and whos still trying to catch him.

Muff

Muff
02-03-2001, 08:08 AM
Killah what number are you in the Que, lol, j/k.

A whole 50 posts without any flaming, not bad at all.

PC Has a 306 thread post going over there about the Hun. Maybe we should keep this going for another year and see if the Hun is still the Big Kid on the block and whos still trying to catch him.

Muff

magnatique
02-03-2001, 09:07 AM
basschick, I meant for most part.... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

am getting used to the :

Dear Webmaster,

Congratulations! Your gallery has been approved for addition to Thumbzilla.com. Our site updates daily at midnight EST and your site will be automatically added. All galleries will remain on our site for 30 days, so be sure to keep them alive for at least that long.

Thank you for submitting to Thumbzilla.com and please submit again.

Sincerely,
the TZ Staff

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

but it's cool as well http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

basschick
02-03-2001, 11:03 AM
mag - i get lots of that email, too, but i'm getting a little too used to

Dear Webmaster,

Your gallery submission (http://www.allmalegallery.com/tgirl/zz/05jan30.html) to Thumbzilla.com was declined for the reason(s) stated below. Please fix the problem and re-submit your gallery to be reconsidered.

Reason(s):

-Your site either took too long to connect and/or once it connected it loaded extremely slow. We cannot approve a gallery that loads too slow at the time we review it.

Thank you for submitting to Thumbzilla.com

Sincerely,
the TZ Staff

it didn't load slow here - what can ya do? ;-)