Dialers Revisited

[CowboySurfers.com]

Richard,

I'm for real, man ... this dialer thing perplexes me .. if someone gives me a damned clue .. well, everyone else will get a clue too ..

for now,

he wears sunglasses and waits for divine
intervention from friends that have knowledge
or wine?

Bacchus salutes you,
my newfound friend?
Just tell me ..

what dialer is best .. and how to make money from the pest?

(Giddap, pony .. )

[BrianWC]

Hard to say which dialer is "best" as most of us resell for the same companies.

There is Niteline, GIB and Go Indirect and a few others as far as companies with dialer platforms of their own.

The question isn't which "dialer is best", the question, in my opinion, is which dialer company doesn't shave and pays on time.

Webmastercommerce would be one of the companies that doesn't shave and pays on time. I cannot speak for any other companies cause I don't use their dialers. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[BrianWC]

Also, CowboySurfers.com, if you are one of our clients, just send an email to us and we'll help you get the most out of your dialer advertisements.

[CowboySurfers.com]

Hey WC Staff, what I consider best is ...
who can tell me (us) how to make the most $$ from them? Who has a reliable payout? Who can give me an honest expectation as far as conversion ratio (with synopsis of variables such as advertising method (linking syntax) , etc?)

[Avatar]

I won't spam my dialer here but allways bear in mind that most resellers use the same "resellers". So what actually matters is the holdtime and the payout. It all depends where the dialer is pointing and what the content is eg. better holdtimes.

Niteline pays every two weeks at the end of payperiod and I believe GIB pays 30 days after end payperiod.

If you don't trust a company then try out the dialer for 3 days. If they don't pay/or the support is lousy, then move on and find the dialer that works best for you.

Testing a dialer for holdtimes is difficult because it change a lot. Sometimes it's only 6 minutes and sometimes it's around 15 minutes. Bear in mind though that most dialers have average holdtimes around 8 minutes.(my experince). Don't belive bullshit like 15-20 minutes..

My point is:
There is no "best" dialer outthere. Try and rotate like every other sponsor!

Just my average 9mins http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/cool.gif

/Peter
UIN#58556083

[Tam]

Who can give me an honest expectation as far as conversion ratio (with synopsis of variables such as advertising method (linking syntax) , etc?)

conversion ratio:
no one can really tell you this... you'd get 100 people telling you what they consider a good conversion ratio, and all 100 would be different. I think this solely depends on your traffic and your niche and several other things.

advertising method:
here again, everyone advertises dialers, as well as any other sponsor, differently and you could take two sites. Advertise the exact same sponsor in the exact same way and have the same amount of traffic.... and both sites will have totally different results.

In short, not one person here is going to be able to tell you what works best for your particular site, dialers or otherwise.. and I think for anyone to tell you they can, is fooling themselves and you. So in MY opinion, you have to test all that out for yourself. I know it sounds harsh, but I have had some of the biggest people in the industry guide me thru step by step on how to advertise their sponsors, and what works for some just will NOT work for me.

It does stand to reason that the more traffic you have and the better quality it is, the better you are going to do.... but what does 100k in traffic mean if you can't convert anything? On the other hand, I have seen people with 10k or less make a killing at this.

There are far too many variables that come into play with ANY sponsor, it's a game of rushing roulette of sorts..... you spin the wheel and see what explodes where.....

This is just my opinion and not a real experienced one...... just in my opinion from what I have personally seen. I'd say look for who pays and pays on time and who offers you the best tech support, some will sit with you for hours and help you, and some won't do jackshit for you once you signup....

Ok I just typed all this and I don't know if a damn bit of it helped you at all.... but oh well... maybe it did, at least I hope so. LOL

Tam

[snow]

Avatar well said bud. Yeah you really have to test what works for you. Traffic plays a big Role Not just content.

The dialer that works best for you is the best.

Snow
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[basschick]

the way to decide which dialer is best for you probably includes these factors:

1. how often does this reseller pay?

2. is the reseller known to pay?

3. where is your traffic coming from? (almost all my traffic is u.s. so i can make good $ with a niteline dialer, but if most of your traffic is from poland or mexico, you won't make shit unless you use a non-niteline dialer)

the niteline dialers ALMOST all go to the same site, owned by niteline, so the holdtimes should be the same between all the resellers.

other than that, go to the spam board and find a reseller that you like http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[ttune]

The best dialer company ? We'll ...
I just got my fat check from the people
at www.xtcdialer.com (http://www.xtcdialer.com)
I keep getting paid so that makes me happy.

[Ron]

how do you guys promote your dialers? I am not having much luck.

i don't need to know WHERE you get your traffic. i can get traffic. but HOW do you promote it? Direct link, force download? What?

[playa]

LOL,,bitz,,,,,nice try ttune,,,,,
no one on this board is that stupid

i knew it was gonna happen sooner or later..

just like WC says the dialer you choose is about who doesn't shave and pays you all the time and ontime....dialer biz can be very voltaile...anything can shake up and bam you won't see any money...just like what happend around 5 months ago..you just have to feel comfortable with the dialer sponser your with..and be rest assured that you'll get paid for everyminute


to make money with the dialer i believe dialers are about pushing in quantity versus quality download......the more downloads the better your chances...

sometimes the dialer software just sits on the users desktop for weeks before they use it....i know this cuz i would stop using a certain dialer and still get minutes for weeks..

i myself always used that

pics or movies
under the thumbs
that shit works like a charm.....