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thrillseekre
08-19-2001, 01:35 AM
fyi
somehow web900 is very hackable, and not at the .ht level either. somehow through telephone fraud i believe. and yes, i have hard proof of this that i cannot reveal.

i took down web900 today on my flagship paysite. who the hell needed it anyway, other than hackerboards.

just a heads up. i'll be notifying my ibill rep immediately. jeeez, she's so sensitive about this info spreading. but i gotta let peeps know.

peace

emgee
08-19-2001, 07:01 AM
you think you have more or less fraud with creditcards.
i suggest you,take the cc-billing down,and make a free site and you are safe.

basschick
08-19-2001, 09:52 AM
emgee *lol*

you are right!

emgee
08-19-2001, 10:41 AM
i just looked closer in my ibill-numbers over a 7 months-period,here is the result.

creditcardpayments:80%
refunds out of it: 2%
chargebacks: 1%

checkpayments:10%
refunds out of it: 1%
chargeback: 0.5%
not payed/check bounced: 25%(autsch)


web900-phonepayments:10%
refunds out of it: 1.5%(some peoples dial twice..lol)
chargeback: 0%

all in all,every paymentmethod gives me money,even the check-peoples.

thrillseekre
08-20-2001, 01:09 AM
well, you guys can through your weight around in here...i could care

fact is that i'm a small fry. so hardy har your big gut away. nevertheless, my site with ibill is sensitive to hacking.
this was a serious post till you fucks chimed in

emgee
08-20-2001, 05:49 AM
ok,thrillseekre,you seems very talented (not).

now tell the cracking secret with web900...i know it.

if your pincodefolder get compromissed,and someone steal this codes,he can make his own passwords on your website(the web900-site),but thats not a securityhole at all.what about protecting this pincodefolder with an other htaccess??

so you think thats the only hole?

what about the pincodes from creditcards?yes,you need the referrer from ibill,but you never heard about spofing the referrer?


you think,ibill-cc,ccbill,globill,lancelot,blah,blah,blah are not crackable?

you are wrong.

IntheBlue
08-20-2001, 01:12 PM
thrillseek,

You must be talking about phone fraud in terms of phreaking. Can't do much about that, maybe ibill can advise you.

As for the pincodes themselves, see if you can modify it to work with
- with pincode and e-mail to enter
- with pincode ,username,password and e-mail to enter

That will determine the amateur hackers. Don't even bother trying to determine the real professionals as that is a waste of time, they would get in anyway.

IntheBlue
08-20-2001, 01:14 PM
determine = deter

shane
08-20-2001, 02:42 PM
i have no prob with phone billing, however over half of my checks bounce http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/mad.gif

thrillseekre
08-20-2001, 10:21 PM
emgee,
you must think i give a shit aboput what you think you know or assume
no, you're wrong

thrillseekre
08-20-2001, 10:23 PM
blue,
that's exactly what i'm talking about, phreaking.
mind you, i confirmed it at ibill today

thrillseekre
08-20-2001, 10:26 PM
so, why do stupid posters make all these assumptions?
or again, are they trying to impress me?
well, i do senior product validation/team lead at Nortel for 115k, so, i'm not impressed?
sorry

thrillseekre
08-20-2001, 10:29 PM
that's another thing
i'm 26
so suck on that and your combined ever household income

thrillseekre
08-20-2001, 10:31 PM
put words in my mouth then tell me that i'm wrong???
resolve the issues. things will feel better
tranquility and harmony for all http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

IntheBlue
08-20-2001, 11:52 PM
relax my friend http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif I think they were just having fun at your expense, nothing personal.

thrillseekre
08-20-2001, 11:53 PM
oh no
i was talking to emgee
he's obssessed...follows me with his issues from post to post.
charity?

emgee
08-21-2001, 07:50 AM
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

it is charity,ask IntheBlue,he know that;-)
lol

ahh...and i revisited the other thread where i followed you:
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/007654.html

(you talked nearly the same bullshit like this time)

and now relax,i never have bad words for other peoples,i'm allways happy to find the normal used english dictionary.

i will try to never reply on your threads and i apologice for the reply on this thread.

i'm impressed on the 115k..really,you must be an expert in your buisness.


heads up!

c u at NORTEL
LOL

toker
08-22-2001, 09:17 AM
just a quick utter of words but..

ibill is pertty secure against crackers and ccbill is their worst enemy most of the logins thru these 2 is done via carders. You wont find people working on a site for 10 hrs to gain 1 login on a site. Its much easier to jump on someone else who is less secure.

However the 900 deal is pretty simple someone has a big party you use the phone and you bill to their crib.. Its even easier to just go to neighbors or anyones house plug in a small handset and sheit you can hit an entire neighborhood in a few hrs.. I dont know where you live but down here everyones box is outside wating for you to hop in the yard and use it.

So 900 is less secure then CC but i would rather people crack in and freeload then burry me with rebills anyway. What you should do is get good software that sends the crackers fake logins and redirects to a TGP like area full of ads and shit images which they decide your site sux and move on.