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kevykev
07-27-2001, 03:56 PM
I just have a question!

What would you do if you had 147,000,000 valid opt-in email addresses??

Would that make some $$$?


Kev

*Kimmykim*
07-27-2001, 03:59 PM
Is this hypothetical or did you put too many commas in there? http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Quite frankly even if someone did have that many opt-in good addys, the spam complaints would be so numerous and so many that there would be alot of problems. We host some pretty big sized mailers and while they are truly opt-in (we monitor this by signing up to their lists without them knowing) -- the spam complaints still roll in, proportionate to the number of names on the list.

kevykev
07-27-2001, 04:01 PM
I have them and no there aren't any typos

Bullet
07-27-2001, 04:05 PM
Sell them to advertisers, unless you told the surfers that their addresses wouldn't be sold.

kevykev
07-27-2001, 04:08 PM
Like who? I have NO idea. The sponsers that pay you like 1.00 an email address don't buy them straight up.


Kev

Tipsy
07-27-2001, 05:25 PM
If you really have that many why aren't you using them yourself? That many genuine opt in addresses would make some serious money.

Dawgy
07-27-2001, 05:35 PM
147,000,000 ??

thats insane. i'd hate to see the complaints from the people and the isp you use to send out that many emails. the biggest list i'm on is 150,000 about, and they send out over a 3 day period... how long would it take to send out 147 million? heh... damn..

$tandaman
07-27-2001, 05:55 PM
I cannot see a way of 147 million adult opt ins.
there is no program big enough out there to collect that many emails

ceev
07-27-2001, 06:19 PM
Thats insane!!!!

I snagged a copy of pacific sunwears email db before i left working for them dam CIO was a total dumbshit even then they only had around 150k

pooky
07-27-2001, 06:22 PM
Ill buy all of them for $1.50 each!

As long as you take a check from the Central Bank of Nigeria

kevykev
07-27-2001, 07:41 PM
that was a joke right???? lol

kevykev
07-27-2001, 07:43 PM
I just recieved them today and to tell you the truth I don't have away to shoot out that many emails out!!!

xApster
07-27-2001, 07:47 PM
What niche are they for or are they just general porn ?

kevykev
07-27-2001, 07:50 PM
There are seperated by Niches and States.They are in ASCII format and it's about 645 megabytes worth of emails which equals out to be (you guessed it!) 147,000,000 emails and they have been checked July 20th for bad emails so these are all good!


So now what do I do?! lol


I haven't seen a script that would handle shootin' out the amount of emails

Kev

kevykev
07-27-2001, 07:56 PM
I was talking to someone at the GFY board and he said he had the same situation once and he used them and about 1% of the people emailed bought memberships.That equals out to be 1,400,000 bucks and I could live with that...

Rich
07-27-2001, 08:03 PM
If they are seperated by niches, then you've answered your own question... do mailings by niche...

kevykev
07-27-2001, 08:25 PM
But each niche has about 3 million addresses

Rich
07-27-2001, 08:38 PM
and the reason why you can't go in and slit them up is why? c'mon man get creative...

kevykev
07-27-2001, 08:40 PM
I'd be sttin' there all fucking day that why! Since your a BIG jerk why don't you tell us where to find a script to handle that many emails

Rich
07-27-2001, 08:47 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kevykev:
I'd be sttin' there all fucking day that why! Since your a BIG jerk why don't you tell us where to find a script to handle that many emails</font>

http://www.cgi-resources.com and php-resources.com as well... I'm not trying to be a dick, but if you have what you say you have, thats like the keys to Fort Knox, and the answer is staring you in the face.

If it takes hours to split up the databases so be it, it's worth the effort. As unfortunate as it is, you do have to work to succeed here.

I wish you the best of luck, but at this point I would find a script that can handle a large number with stability and then accodate your list to fit it.

Rich
07-27-2001, 08:51 PM
I meant accomodate.

kevykev
07-27-2001, 09:03 PM
Thanx Rich I will check 'em out. Fort Knox..ehh?

Rich
07-27-2001, 09:17 PM
In my opinion... if they are well targeted, you can do nice things for your wallet with opt-in lists.

shane
07-27-2001, 09:39 PM
those lists you have wont be optin at all. 170,000,000 is to many they probably either computer generated ones or havested ones, either way you will need to find a host and billing company who doesnt care about spam complaints, you will also need to use anonamus spamming software like desktop server so your ISP doesnt kick you

kevykev
07-27-2001, 10:20 PM
Would Desktop Server work with Cable Modem access where you have a static IP address?

Kev

bitz
07-27-2001, 10:55 PM
even with desktop server, it only HIDES your IP somewhat, they can still get it and have you terminated. spamming or emailing on a static ip is not a good idea, most spammers get isp's just for spamming because they know they will be killed.

Bill Cosby
07-27-2001, 11:17 PM
How did you get this list?

If this list is truly a good list.....i doubt it would just fall in your lap.

And it is nearly impossible to have an optin list that big.

If you bought it...you got ripped..and i doubt you would have enough money to buy it if it was legit..because if it was it is worth a fortune

mukoh
07-28-2001, 12:10 AM
kevykev,
Contact me at icq 50714103
or webmaster@drfuns.com
I have opt-in lists and know what to do.

magnatique
07-28-2001, 12:33 AM
kevykev, contact me on icq...
421704

ProgGod
07-28-2001, 12:49 AM
Contact me on ICQ at 69658209 or email preston@hiendmedia.com We have plenty of tools for authenticating and sending the emails as well as scripts written to split up the lists.

Among alot of other things.

Bullet
07-28-2001, 01:30 AM
I'm also curious how you got so many opt ins. Why didn't you just send that traffic to a third party, and make 147 million dollars?

Groovy
07-28-2001, 06:26 AM
btw, put my url in it ok?
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

kevykev
07-28-2001, 09:28 AM
Put your URL in what buddy??

ProgGod and Mukoh you have mail!

kevykev
07-28-2001, 09:31 AM
I just found out that I have this script just sittin' there on my harddrive -
Subscribe Me Professional .It claims to be able to send out 200,000 at a time


But I think ProgGod and Mukoh have somethin' better (i hope!)

Due
07-28-2001, 09:47 AM
Damn you are stupid http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Here is a simple solution:
1: Open Outlook (not outlook express)
2: Copy paste the E-mails into the send to addres.
3: Write your promotion mail
4: Click on submit
If your computer can handle that one get a new one since it must be shit you have then http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Do this all the time from my laptop http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Bullet
07-28-2001, 10:17 AM
I have an e-mailing service kevykevy. Just send them to me, and I'll do it for you

kevykev
07-28-2001, 11:38 AM
That was to the point there Big Jerk but Outlook crashes when I try to email 25,000 at a time and also my ISP has a limit to emails that can be sent out so I have to do it from one of my sites servers

Kev

kevykev
07-28-2001, 11:39 AM
I'm sure you will Bullet! lol

Darius
07-28-2001, 12:02 PM
post all you contact info.

I am always getting shit from people who say that I "opted in". Even with email addresses that I rarely use. I am sure that if you send out to a list of that size you will have a huge amount of spam trouble.
I have raised hell with a few spammers and thier defence was "but the guy I bought it from told me it was from an opt-in list"

Darius
07-28-2001, 12:12 PM
post all you contact info = post all your contact info.

Sorry for the rant, but I am getting really sick of the huge amount of spam emails out there. One of 50 different ones that I got today:
"lose 2 - 14 inches in one hour - 100% gauranteed"
Do they think the public is retarded? Do they care who gets this shit?

Gaaaahhhhhh! I think I am going to scrap all my email addresses and get new ones

kevykev
07-28-2001, 12:15 PM
Why don't you go do that then Darious.I promise I don't promote weight Loss lol

Darius
07-28-2001, 12:27 PM
weight loss, mortgages, adult websites, opt-in email lists, get rich quick and a few others, that I can't think of offhand.

I treat them all the same. Report them to the email abuse people (can't remember the name abuse.net?), all thier sponsors, counters and thier host.

Bullet
07-28-2001, 12:30 PM
I just got 257,000,000 opt in e-mails, any idea what I should do with it ?

Fart
07-28-2001, 12:48 PM
oh boy...

Bullet
07-28-2001, 01:05 PM
for only 1000 dollars a month, you can use list builder to send out 2,000,000 e-mails a month:

http://www.bcentral.com/services/lb/pricing.asp

toker
07-29-2001, 09:31 AM
I bet it was one of those mail list CDs especially since you say you have their state ect.. all sorted out. No other way you got those from opt-in and yet you cant even find a way to mail by asking the person you got them from.

Sounds very fishy to me and i might add if you cant handle the list then i dont think you should play with fire or you might get burned. By spamming users in your opted list you could face hugh legal issues and fines to recoup cost to pay people to handle the complaints and bandwidth fees. AOL has won such cases against mass mailers many times who thought they were undetectable because they bought mail-o-matic which did say stealth on the box.

You may not be aware of this but all open relay sites are being mapped out and blocked by major ISPs just to try and relieve their servers. Some large spammers have actually busted by the feds for mere spam which large amounts can slow servers and also be considered DOS on an ISPs servers.

Im also shure some of those are more then likely generated with free emails. Any company could pay a few employees just to open accounts and reply to this list system just to create lists to sell to suckers. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

I personally would only use emails i collected legit because in the end its my ass im covering. I for one hate spam more then anything and really hate when people buy lists and think they can just spam me.

mukoh
07-29-2001, 10:04 PM
I rarely post nowadays, and posted the other day about contacting me in the heat of the though. I run my own opt-in lists.
147,000,000 ONE HUNDRED FORTY SEVEN MILLION
That is lets taket the latest ratings, 350 million people on the net as of last month, 70 million are americans. so thats basically half the nets email addresses? Ok it is possible with email harvesters to do that. But with opt-in. What kind of site would you have to put the submissions on, to get half of the nets emails? Just food for thought.

ausboy
07-29-2001, 10:15 PM
Somebody hacked microsoft again?

Equinox Prime
07-30-2001, 06:53 AM
I just thought of a nice use:

build a virus that finds their password file, CC numbers, bank connection and have every single one of them transfer you $100 to your bank in Switzerland.

That'll work http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

kanga
07-30-2001, 08:01 AM
if you would really have that much addresses, that list would be far bigger than 645 megabytes...
and even if you have that many, no way they are all opt-in

kanga

T&T
07-30-2001, 08:15 AM
uhmm... i have some prime development property in the swamplands that you might be interested in.... and I could also hook you up with a nigerian business man that has a problem moving 150 million out of the country...

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

The Dawg
07-30-2001, 09:37 AM
Who sells a nice opt-in email program that handles the webmaster refers and stats??


The Dawg

kevykev
07-30-2001, 10:17 AM
kanga -

Your a fuckin idiot.They are in text file that are 8 - 10mb each with are 250,000 addys each.Why so sceptical? Didn'y yomamma buy you enough toys when you were a kid?

*Kimmykim*
07-30-2001, 01:18 PM
Once again, hypothetical or too many commas???

We run some clients with the largest opt-in adult mailers there are and they don't have anywhere near that kind of numbers on their list and some have been collecting for years.

And to say you just got it last week?

Go ahead and mail that sucker http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

kanga
07-30-2001, 02:42 PM
Your a fuckin idiot.They are in text file that are 8 - 10mb each with are 250,000 addys each.Why so sceptical? Didn'y yomamma buy you enough toys when you were a kid?[/QUOTE]

lol - then let's do some basic maths here:
147000000/250000=588
588*8mb=4704mb

i'm outa here,
kanga

kevykev
07-30-2001, 02:53 PM
ok to be exact! It is 681mb worth of email addyz...

*Kimmykim*
07-30-2001, 03:09 PM
Well mail em then, we're all waiting breathless to hear how it goes...

Rich
07-30-2001, 03:15 PM
just please remove me from the list

kevykev
07-30-2001, 03:20 PM
kimmy,
I tried to add you to my ICQ to talk 2 ya but your never ON!!! lol


My # is - 66703137


Kev

Muff
07-30-2001, 06:22 PM
Highly doubt they are totally opt-in.

If they are sorted. Ill mail em all over 4 months for you for 20%

Small upfront fee aswell.

webmaster@xxxlinkcafe.com

kevykev
07-30-2001, 06:27 PM
nope

Muff
07-30-2001, 06:35 PM
nope what?

kevykev
07-30-2001, 06:37 PM
Why would I pay YOU a fee?

Muff
07-30-2001, 08:41 PM
Because thats what people do.

And if you had 147 mil. you would have alot more than 651 megs. try more like 8 gigs.

kevykev
07-30-2001, 08:53 PM
No that's what dumbass people that are suckered by U pay!

Last time I will say this it IS around 700 megs for 147,000,000 emails alright?Alright!! Get on with your life and go try to find yourself a dumbass to pay what ya want!

mailman
07-30-2001, 09:09 PM
hahahaha...Subscribe me pro?? will crash. Most email programs that send mass mail cannot handle mass volume.

Impossible to mail out 147 million emails - you have to break list down and use multiple servers.

We have a program that does 300 emails a second - with 147 million emails it would take about 340 days to send all those mails -
that is 24/7 round the clock - I think you would get shut down within the first 24 hours...of mass spamming...

playa
07-30-2001, 09:24 PM
if they were TRUELY opt in email
then you will know what to do with them

now if you bought them,they wouldn't be opt in anymore would it?

,prolly actually fell for the spam email to buy more spam email address's,,LOL

take my advice, spammers only look for quick cash,,if you promote yoursites with them unless you are promoting a phone number, your ass is going to be in hot water,
with your host and or SPONSERS,,

i am sure sponsers never has problem deleting an account for spam..To much shit going down already for spam,,IE. AOL vs CEN lawsuit,,

BTW,if i get another 100 spam email i know who to talk too,,

i report all spam,

spamcop@spamcop.net and uce@ftc.gov
and all isp's and sponsers

PLEASE REMOVE ME!

kevykev
07-30-2001, 09:43 PM
uhh...the spam ain't from me cuz I haven't done anything with it yet?!