call-kelly.com for sale

[SpyCam]

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1297669708

[Doctor Dre]

lol big guys not making enough money to pay bw bills ? lol

[mn1]

Price $90.000 :confused:

[XP]

Call kelly's traffic is bullshit. Productivity is fuckin low!

[SpyCam]

I doubt if it's possible to make 15-30k$/month as it's written on ebay...

sales are damn low now

[playa]

Originally posted by mn1:
<STRONG>Price $90.000 :confused:</STRONG>

actually reserve not met

[Pinox]

Originally posted by XP:
<STRONG>Call kelly's traffic is bullshit. Productivity is fuckin low!</STRONG>

Mwah, he/she had always 30% prod. on my site...
Not bad..

Ron

[Darren B]

could be linked to recent happenings at absolout

[ragnar]

hmm if you could make 25 signups/day with a normal signup proggie, i think you can pay the money for it but i doubt if any big tgp's are making that, i guess the site has alot of bookmarkers so, trained surfers they know how to find free pics and they dont click on your sponsor for sure.

but its always nice to have one, that is running 550k /day hehe :D

[gotys]

yeah, 550k/day is nice. But $90,000 is little out of the reality. It's a fucking TGP for God's sake. 550k/day TGP could possibly make a $90,000 in a year. So if anyone buys it for that money, they can most likely expect the return in a year. In a year, who fucking knows where this whole adult industry will be. As I see it right now, this whole business is going to hell. It's interesting how market works in misterious ways :) Sort out the weed, leave the best, and it all works automatically :) Gotta love it. I can't wait to see more TGPs go down.

[salsbury]

if your business makes $90k in a year its not wholly unusual to try to sell it for $90k. that is, most businesses think further ahead than just a year..

[playa]

an internet business is too shaky to invest that much money,,, no telling what might happen in the future,,

but with 500k of traffic making
500-1000 a day sounds very reasonable to me

[salsbury]

many 'net businesses are still doin very well. most of them are doing well because they didn't blow their profit wad every month before saving for a "rainy day" in the future. ;)

[letcher]

only thing killing the adult industry IS all your tgp's ;)

[Shannon]

Great statement :) And I could'nt agree more.

Originally posted by salsbury:
<STRONG>many 'net businesses are still doin very well. most of them are doing well because they didn't blow their profit wad every month before saving for a "rainy day" in the future. ;)</STRONG>

[elron]

The owner of this site contacted me about a month ago , telling me about his intention to sell his site for 90k , so it has nothing to do with whatever happened to absolout-series .
Now as for the price , this site worths no more then 10,000$ .
Reasons :
1 - tgp traffic - the lowest level of converted traffic at the porn industry .
2 - script site - estimated as less then 30% of his traffic is from bookmarks , and that's what counts . his trade partners can just remove him the day after it will be sold .
3 - 500k is not only a site , but also a knowledge how to get such site to that kind of traffic . it's not like selling a car that will remain the same to the buyer . without the knowledge , this site will loose traffic .
4 - Selling a site is like selling a business . If the owner decides to sell his business , it means he has reason , and he wouldn't want you to know it .


Peace .

Elron

[playa]

great post elron

[kong]

Originally posted by elron:
<STRONG>
Now as for the price , this site worths no more then 10,000$ .
</STRONG>

I'd wire them $10K right now if they'd sell it for that.

Dude, its 500K site, no way its only worth that... imho

-Kong

[basschick]

very well put, elron!

[kmanrox]

theres no way she makes that much...

BS


fyi

[STEVEN]

Originally posted by XP:
<STRONG>Call kelly's traffic is bullshit. Productivity is fuckin low!</STRONG>

call-kelly.com has had very good productivity for me for many months now. Maybe the traffic just hates your layout.

And if Pierre buys call-kelly.com, I'm jamming myself into a fucking baby basket, and getting myself delivered to his doorstep. Ah-goo! Ah-goo! Da-da da-da

I'll be like Baby Finster from the Buggs Bunny cartoons :D

[toker]

Reality people how much does 1k of traffic go for?

$5-10 at best so 500 x 5 = $2500 500 x 10 - 5000 now ad some actual value say you can keep it going at 500k and convert some sales at a 1:2000 just for general banner clicks. the possibiltiy with converting 10% of that traffic is $2500 daily. However that just theory but most business have a net worth over actual value say 3 times actual profits for X months ect..

So value in traffic is not near but net worth could be way beyond however i do suck at math but i think you get my idea and i think the numbers are good. The best way to buy such a site is to see proof of income and how it actually does on profits vs operational costs. Sure you can make $50k a day with a site but what if it costs $60k to operate well there goes the value. Just remember what 500k hits = in bandwidth and the amount of time needed to maintain the site.

Same goes if it costs $90k and then the buyer would still possibly need some extra cash to keep it going till profits do turn to green. So if it took a year to make the $90k back and you spend $50k a year to keep it going you now have spent about $140 to make ????

If you think about it this will require about 2 years to turn a decient profit unless you have a very large bank roll knotted up in your pocked from drug sales (refering to viagra of course). This way is good for tax and a way to prove some income that was made legaly if you make alot of side money illegaly. :D

BTW im still selling my patented how to get rich overnight kit and still offering a free crome glock with every order. Be sure to mention this post and i will even scope you the best street corner in your town at no extra charge!!

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[D-spider]

Call-kelly are promoting maxcash right now so there is no chance the site is doing 15k per month. however, if the owner change it to good dialers promotion I wouldn't be surprised if the website will generate more than 20k and it is very little work for experienced tgp webmaster who can also boost his other websites with the 200k bookmarks or more kelly has. I think he is selling(he and not she) because it belongs to a company who started with adult but now do some kind of chat and dating software.

[Mr Exotic]

And now we go back to reality, no way is it making 2500/daily. I would guess it is damn lucky to make 300 daily, maybe 4 or 5 months ago it could have been doing 1k-1.5k/day but now I bet its barely covering the bandwidth, which is probably why its being sold in the first place.

[Asdffdsa]

40k to sponsors a day with a 1-2000 sign up ratio, saying average sign up=26 dollars equals 520 dollars a day, or $15,600 a month with only 2k a month in bandwidth.

I highly doubt this site isn't covering it's bandwidth, and 20% of the sites advertisements. Like stated above, they probably have other projects that they're working on.

[WebMonkey]

A few questions about this site for sale.

What do you think a fair price for a site like that is?

Wouldnt the site generate more money if it was set up so that when you clicked on a picture it stayed at their site? Or would bandwith just run that much more that it wouldnt be a good idea?

Like www.picturepost.com (http://www.picturepost.com)

What would you change about www.call-kelly.com (http://www.call-kelly.com) to make it better?

What do you think a site like www.thehun.net (http://www.thehun.net) does a month in revenue?

[drumsicle]

Originally posted by WebMonkey:
<STRONG>A few questions about this site for sale.

What do you think a fair price for a site like that is?

Wouldnt the site generate more money if it was set up so that when you clicked on a picture it stayed at their site? Or would bandwith just run that much more that it wouldnt be a good idea?

Like www.picturepost.com (http://www.picturepost.com)

What would you change about www.call-kelly.com (http://www.call-kelly.com) to make it better?

What do you think a site like www.thehun.net (http://www.thehun.net) does a month in revenue?</STRONG>

Yes, good questions! I hope someone who knows these things will give us some insight!

[Due]

I don't think it will be hard to make $20K from such a site per month for a webmaster that is just a little experienced.
I think a pretty fair price for call-kelly would be around $50K or so. But he can probably get more from it. If I had the money I would buy it but not for $90K :)
elron&gt; $10K ? You are joking right?

[Asdffdsa]

I think 90k's a fair price. Call kelly will be around for while. Even if the site generates 8k a month, you can live pretty comfortably for a long time, and only work 2 hours a day :)

[pyro]

If the site is doing $15k-$20k profit or more, per month... why sell it? work on other projects ? b.s
get someone to run it for you, and still get a % of the profits

I dont care how rich u r.

[playa]

i know i could make 20k a month easy
with that much traffic

[Dcorp]

with that much quality traffic you can make over 25k per month. that is for sure

[pyro]

how much did worldsex sell for???

[ludwik]

$900.000
??

[Doctor Dre]

Yo guys it seems you don't run high traffic tgps ... Me and Elron do ... And trust me it's not making 600-700 $ a day no fucking way ! If you are really good at gallery and work your ass to make 5-10 yes you can make some good cash from it ... but from the tgp itself ? nah it suckass

[NakedPanda]

Its not easy to get someone in to "run" your sites for u even if profitable or atleast I havent found it so what do u do post a notice in your local job center saying pornographer wanted??
U either need someone u realy trust or permenant vigilance with good monitoring systems and the above boarderness to go to the police if u get screwed.
I am at the stage where I would like someone to run some of my sites but I just dont trust anyone with them . does Anyone who has done this successfuly have any advice?

Panda

[gotys]

Doctor Dre - some golden words there. Guys, you obviously don't know much about high traffic TGPs. All of you are saying how easily you could make 20k/month with 500k/day traffic. Trust me, I know , I run big TGP. Call-Kelly is lucky to make $400/day. And I mean , fucking lucky!

[Doctor Dre]

Goty's that's what I said ... Btw I run a tgp that stay arround 300k normally :) so I know about high traffic tgps . That's what I said ...

[Doctor Dre]

Gotys you don't have almost any ads in pic hunter ... You probably just make enough to pay bw if you do lol :)

[Doctor Dre]

Sorry I missunderstood I tough you were talking to me lol

[pyro]

well, if there is no $$ in tgps why do you run them?? to waste time.. tgps have to be pampered to keep traffic...

[pc-porno.com]

I think Call-Kelly does 5%-10% hits to sponsors (which is 25,000-50,000).

The only question is what is the sign up ratio ?!

If it 1:2000 so it can be 300$.
But it also can be more, like 1:3000 or 1:4000.

Big TGP runners you know the answer ?

Also for bandwith: 19k page + 10k pics = 30k
.....you can count the rest.
So 2k bandwith costs is true.

[ragnar]

if you can send 50.000 hits to a blindclick sponsor who is paying you an average of 2/3 cent you can reach that 25k$ month easily 50k x 3 = 1500$/day, not bad ey ?

[DOX]

(bad english)

I think You can make about $10-12k with 550k traffic tgp (30%bookmarkers+70%trades & other..) minus $2k bandwidth. It's realistic income. Who said that bookmarkers don't buy?! - they buy cause they trust you - it may be better if you have trusting design and not to many blind links. Question of trades or trust. Visitors may visit your site many times and one evening they will try your recommendation. To get back your $90k in one year is pretty good business in case if situation will stay the same like today on this market. Now about managing. You don't have to spend your expensive time on daily updates - You have to build strategy - You are manager. Be smarter, spend your time on thinking how to bring better traffic and make better salles - increase your ratio - You are manager - everytime learn this market. Caught any russian guy that can do daily selection for you (about $100-150 monthly, your hours much more expensive if you have high traffic tgp, don't be ..). Russians do pretty clean & cheap work, they are good guys.
Now It's fair to say that i'm not one of the best in building traffic, I have only about 50k daily tgp traffic and ready for offers everytime. thanx!

[Jer]

ragnar, you forgot to say how many of these 50.000 visitors sent to blindlink sponsor will click the gateway page :)

I don't run any TGP, but I doubt you can send 50.000 clicks per day thru the blind link sponsor gateway with just 550K ;)

How much money can you make per 100K daily traffic to a TGP (site, not gallery) ?

Like $80-$130 ? (and with what kind of sponsors... 4 free, recurring, signup, blind, dialers?)

How much bandwidth per 100K? 5 GB?


Jer

[Jer]

Oh, and I mean without listing any of yours galleries, pure TGP site money.

Or you guys post lots of your own galleries (or 50% revenue deals, etc) everyday to make the money ?

[ludwik]

tgp business is the worst business on the net

because....
for example...
if tgp gets 100k, PROBABLY you can send to sponsor up to 10k of traffic

....BUT if you have 100k cj site

you can put exit page (only one clean page)
and you will get up to 40k hits
40% of surfers click on your exit page if you have clean cj site without entry console, sometime less

AND THIS IS FROM ONLY ONE PAGE!

and you can get some cliks from main page of your cj and some clicks from second exit console!

people will buy memberships becuase they don't get free content!


LET'S GO BACK TO OLD GOOD TIMES WHEN 20K CJ SITES BROUGHT FEW K OF $$$

[gotys]

pc-porno.com - the ratio is more like 1:10000 with blind clicks

[pc-porno.com]

gotys are you shure ??????????

Never thought it can be so terrible !

But if its true:
50,000 = 5 signups = 150$ (- 60$bandwith) =
90$ a day = 3000$ a month netto !

And for this they want 90,000$ !!!???

[WebMonkey]

Ok, so what about adding a few more affiliate sites up there so instead of having all Maximumcash? Wouldnt that help increase the sales?

And what about the adult friend finders affiliation? Don't you think they make much from that?

Also it looks like they have some ads on there site that arent affiliate ads??

And what about selling gallery spots? Do you think that would be easy to do since the site receives so much traffic per day?

And what about adding Dialers and exit pages?

What is everyones opinion on the status of this industry? Do you think its getting harder to sell flat rate ads per month? Or does it just depend on what kind of Return on Investments you can give them.

[toker]

Sure dialers may bring quick $$$ but it will also piss off surfers who may bookmark and people like hun and worldsex know this. Dont believe me email Mr Hun and ask him why he dont use dialers and make more $$$ from his traffic by fucking them.

If you ever find a TGP with 500k using a dialer i would sure love to see it.

There are so many what if factors that could make differ revenue that its a gamble mo matter how you look at it. If you know marketing and have good design and management skills it might be worth it.

If you have piles of money it could be used for many things though like promoting a personal paysite and eliminate paying webmasters which could save money.

If you can afford a $90k TGP why bother with dialers and risk sponsors not paying. Most anyone who can afford that could prob open their own programs to generate funds very easy.

My take is the owner will sell and a shortly after invest maybe a % back into another venture to make even more.

[kingping]

pornno.com has dialers

[Jer]

Originally posted by Jer:
<STRONG>ragnar, you forgot to say how many of these 50.000 visitors sent to blindlink sponsor will click the gateway page :)

I don't run any TGP, but I doubt you can send 50.000 clicks per day thru the blind link sponsor gateway with just 550K ;)

How much money can you make per 100K daily traffic to a TGP (site, not gallery) ?

Like $80-$130 ? (and with what kind of sponsors... 4 free, recurring, signup, blind, dialers?)

How much bandwidth per 100K? 5 GB?

Oh, and I mean without listing any of yours galleries, pure TGP site money.

Or you guys post lots of your own galleries (or 50% revenue deals, etc) everyday to make the money ?

Jer</STRONG>

Can anyone help me?

[Asdffdsa]

7 of the top ten sites on sextracker have dialers. Even worldsex... now

[gotys]

pc-porno.com , yep, that's right

[playa]

dialers will not take away our sign ups,,,,

just hurt your productivity alittle

[Speedy26]

what are you guys calling high traffic?? please post #'s. our tgp is only getting 25,000 hits a day and it makes about $200 daily + or - 15%. and i call that low traffic.

to have 100,000 hits a day and make $300 it must be a cj hell, not a tgp or link site. pretty easy to figure out that your not going to make money sending all your surfers to a trade. hehe

i might have to start helping some of you that have 100,000 visitors a day and cant make any money from it. (for a small fee, or amount of traffic of course.) haha

[gotys]

Speedy, what's your site's url?

[gotys]

Holy shit! He has 2 bids already? Fuck! What kind of moron is going to pay 90 grand for this?
Maybe I should sell my site for like 80 grand, that would rock.

[Jer]

bump