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Ace
02-17-2000, 06:23 PM
Hi, I'm new to this board. I run a few circle jerk sites. I sold my exit traffic to Steve Goobeldy from garbagetraffic.com.
He only paid me once after I talked to him on the phone. I've heard from other webmasters that he didn't pay them either.
He still owes me about 2k. His icq # is 20840018. his email is goobeldy1@usa.net or segroup@sprint.ca. His phone number is 514 620 8307 in Canada.
Beware of this motherfucker.

Ace.

reyes
02-17-2000, 09:50 PM
He own me 1500$.. I dont thurst him at all..
Btw, thanks for the info i live in the same state as him i will give him some calls

rEyes
p4all/Blind-IO

WEJERKUHARD
02-18-2000, 12:24 AM
Yeh that FUCKER GOT 2 weeks worth of my exit
traffic i did not get 1 cent from that
asswipe!and he promised all this bullshit oh
the fedex check is in the mail crap..
he is just a "REAL BULLSHITTER!

Ace
02-18-2000, 04:07 AM
If all of you wanna help me fix this fucker, email me at ad@videotron.ca
That guy is so full of shit, I'd like to get him.
I got his address. He lives in a suburb of Montreal. I got webmasters on my icq list who could drink his blood. The only one he pays is JJJ's of pornno.com .
I live in Chicoutimi and I go regularly to Montreal so.......
Help me out. I'd like to get this motherfucker exposed and really see him hurt and go out of business.

Ace.

MrBrian
02-18-2000, 04:09 AM
Ace is my new best friend http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

MrBrian
02-18-2000, 04:09 AM
Damn! still a little jerk
as long as im not a little dick, i'll be alright i guess :-)

WEJERKUHARD
02-18-2000, 05:35 PM
Yeh that steve asswhipe got 2 of my other
traders i deal with as well the both lost over 1k$ that fuck "steve" said well i pay out over 100k a month and that he pays jjj
10k per day ..that was his sales pitch to me.
i think the guy is a real jack ass ripp-off
con man! try to ripp of us smaller guys ..
i had forgotten about him till you made this post ACE ..just letting you all know done deal with that CROOK!

Juggler
02-18-2000, 05:53 PM
Mr Brain

I am surprised to see you getting on a thread about owing for Exit Traffic I am still waiting 3 months and counting

Chris
02-18-2000, 06:38 PM
Look you guys, I have known Steve for a while and he is not dodgy at all. He has been unfortunate in the past with people image sourcing, but thats over and done with.

He is on vacation in London for a few more days, he is getting back on Monday 21st,
from them on, things should be back to normal.

Me (freehornysluts.com) and Richard (freerotic.com) have been with steve for ages now, his system is fast, and we have had several checks already....

Trust me on this, next week everything will be back to normal. Me and Richard work closely with Steve, he is a cool guy http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

He took a break by going to London for several days, everyone will get their checks next week! http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

If you have any questions, ICQ me on 24924411, Im in contact with steve a lot by email/phone.

Cheers

Chris
webmaster@loadsofsites http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Anton P
02-18-2000, 08:05 PM
To Everyone,

We run Exitmoney.com and deal with Steve all the time. We pay ontime, he pays ontime all the time, I dont know what problems you might have with him but it seems to me someone is doing it on purpose to stir something up. If you dont trust Steve or have any problems with him than we dont want you in any of our programs.

Take care

Goobeldy
02-18-2000, 08:13 PM
Okay ladies and gentlemen, lets set the record straight, you can't have a one sided discussion.

The facts are that I left town for 13 days, 95% of the webmasters and companies that sell me traffic were paid on time during the past days, afew weren't. That will be remedied when I return next Tuesday.

For those who like to bad mouth, and spread stories about me thats fine, but guess what, we're in business to make money, not tell stories. So lets stop the childishness, if you have any questions or comments or problems with your checks email me at goobeldy1@usa.net

Crying here endlessly won't make you money. So come Tuesday everyone who did not get their checks and as emailed me will be taken care of.

I've heard tales about I dies, I ran away, I was hit by a bus, I'm a crook, all told so beautifully I had to look in the mirror to see if I had really died and come back, LOL

So email me, I will not be paying anyone who has gone out of their way to tell lies, spread malicous rumors and tried to just plain ol bad mouth me, I'll leave that to my lawyers to srt ot in their good time.

Otherwise, we're still in business, we're not dead and the posting on another board about me dying in a plane accident is jsut plain old funny

See you Tuesday

Jack
02-18-2000, 08:30 PM
Hello guys. Most, if not all of you know me. I want to get some things straight.

I get a lot of webmasters telling me things about Steve because they know Steve and I are friends. Like a few minutes ago a couple of people told me via icq that Mr Brian is spreading a rumor, via icq, that Steve cheated a sponsor and was dropped and how he's not going to pay anyone.

First of all, Mr Brian, before you go shooting your mouth off about others, why don't you answer the question posted earlier about why you haven't paid your webmasters?

Tell you what, Mr Brian, why don't you post what you're telling people here and see what response you get from Babenet and Steve and their lawyers. Steve and I both deal with the same person at Babenet. I've spoken with him several times today, as I do everyday. He knows I know Steve, and yet I guess he must have forgotten to mention how Steve was cheating them, but managed to remember to tell you??? You're so full of crap Mr Brian.

I saw your post about you pinging my and Steve domains and how you said we share a server......more crap. We both host at Openface. We both have multiple servers there - it just happens to be one of the largest hosts in the Montreal area. So if you look at the IP # you quoted, you'll find its the IP for their name server not my domain....I suggest you do a little more homework before opening your mouth next time.

Now, a lot of people ask me if Steve and I are partners. No we are not. We are in the same type of business but we are not partners. I have known Steve a long time - he has never screwed me. He is on vacation right now and will be back Monday night. If you have any questions for him, ask him then.

You guys know my reputation, many many of you sell me traffic and get paid on time, every week. I don't like crap being spread around, especially about someone who is unavailable to defend himself. That just show's you the kind of person, the person spreading the rumors, is.

Juggler
02-18-2000, 08:43 PM
Once again it looks like a case of people jumping on someone without first trying to find out what has happened. This Thread really PISSED me of for a few reson

1) I really do not think it is right to post other webmaster phone no. and try to start a witch hunt against a webmaster yes we can all get Phone no. etc if we want but to post it here I think is well out of order and personally if I was running the board I would of kicked you off for it.

2) Mr Brian you have just been through all this and you still owe money for exit. Lets be 100% clear you had problems and I am still sure I will get paid some time but this is not the place to sort it out I am sure you will agree I could not believe when I saw you had posted to this thread.

IMHO this board is best used to help each other. I do believe that it should be ok to post about BAD webmasters/sponsors but frist lets get all the facts and if you do post post to inform other webmasters not to try and get a lnych mob togeather

Remember every time you attack another webmaster you burn a bridge burn if I have not learnt anything else one thing I have learnt is to make money in this biz you need as many contacts as possible

Happy Trading

Happy trading

richard
02-18-2000, 08:52 PM
aight.

Steve is pukka, chill out.

Brian? well, he seems pukka too.

Hmn. If you were in competition with someone, maybe you would bad mouth them to nick their customers...

Anyhow, really, dont worry people, regarding Steve he pays cool.

*sigh* CJ is soooooo lame.

Richard.

WEJERKUHARD
02-18-2000, 10:47 PM
Steve is a rip off PERIOD!
not taking any sides me and 2 other guys
wereboth robbed by that ass!
only one he pays is JJJ..

I dont reccomend anyone to use his
"GARBAGE" traffic as all you get paid
is "GARBAGE" -0- CENTS!!!
SELL YOUR GARBAGE ELSEWHERERE!!!!

WEJERKUHARD
02-18-2000, 11:25 PM
Oh i forgot to mention:
this steve guy riped me and 2 other webmasters off before garbage traffic
was created, this guy steve promised the
world and deliverd a bag of shit!
if you need other webmsters to come on here
and say there story i will bring them in!

THIS IS TO YOU STEVE: get your free traffic elsewhere and dont try to steal from the
newbies!

me and 3 others hate you for what you have done in the past! being a liar-cheat
with empty promisis.. I ASKED YOU WHERE IS MY CHECK and you say i dont know my secratery
takes care of that stuff..

well you take care of you buissness like shit far as i am concerned..

and to any other webmaster that reads this
this happend to us over 6 months ago.. and we all tell other "NEVER TO USE STEVE AS HE DONT PAY"!!!

YOU NEWBIES MAY HAVE GOT A CHECK OR 2 BUT ME AND 3 OTHERS DID NOT SEE ONE FUCKING CENT!

Ace
02-19-2000, 12:34 AM
All I know is that I didn't get paid. I took off his links, he sent me a message on icq that if I didn't put his links back up I wouldn't get paid. So I put his links back up and he promised to fedex me my check the next day. I waited a week but there was no fedexed check.
I got paid once by him but that was after I talked to him personally and asked where my check was and he told me there were problems with the bookkeepers.
I guess those problems aren't over yet....

WEJERKUHARD
02-19-2000, 03:09 PM
Ha Ha Ha.. thee old "BOOKEEPER" EXUSE...

Heard that one before...

donger
02-19-2000, 04:41 PM
OK, just for my 2 cents. I think everbody here on this board knows that i'm an honest webmaster, have never cheated anybody, and play shit by the books. I started selling this guy my traffic. He prepaid me for one week, which i met. That was fine. Then the prepayment for the next week never came. I kept sending traffic from monday through thursday (about $2k worth), while he kept feeding me non-working fedex tracking numbers and promising that the check was in the mail. I, being the trusting soul that i am, kept sending the traffic. All of a sudden, on friday, i can't even check my stats with him. He says some BS about how the box was hacked, and how he's got some tech guy working on restoring my account. He suggests that maybe i shouldn't send traffic until it's fixed and i get paid, then we can resume. OK by me, so i pull the links, having still sent like 350-400k unpaid, and i start waiting for the check, with no other buyer lined up. Well, i still haven't received the check, 2 1/2 months later. A month or so ago, i posted something to this effect on the porncity BBS and he suddenly changes his tune from "your check is in the mail" to "i've already paid you, fuck you", which, i'm sure, is what he'll post in response to this message, saying that he has cancelled checks from me, etc. Truth be told, yeah, he has one cancelled check from me for the first week of traffic, but the second week is still unpaid. Basically, this guy is a crook. Here's one of the three or four tracking numbers he gave me:
817383660655

now it shows as delivered, which means that he never even had that particular fedex envelope in his possession, or else just outright lied about it having been sent, and sent the same airbill to someone else.

NOTE: this jack guy, if it's the same one i've been dealing with, seems rock solid. I've received 5 checks so far from this guy, each one on time, and each one cleared just fine.

just my 2 cents

Chris
02-19-2000, 04:56 PM
please guys, ive had NO problems whatsoever with steve, and as he said in his post in this thread, wait til Tuesday and your check will be sent.


thanx

chris

donger
02-19-2000, 04:58 PM
chris- i've been officially screwed, it's been over 2 months, and i seriously doubt that check is going to show up on my doorstep come tuesday

richard
02-19-2000, 07:04 PM
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run freerotic/freehornysluts with Chris
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OK, heres our experiences with Steve.

We Start up the week before Christmas, no pre pay agreement, and with no payment structure agreed.

It comes to mid Jan, and we have not got any money.

Daniel da Silva was floating around in this equation somewhere.. not too sure where though.

Dan said our cheques had been mailed by Steve, so we waited and waited....

...meanwhile, we can only access stats from Jan 4th onwards - 1/2 of what we had sent was sent before this date.

Things are not looking good - we have not got paid, we have been fed bogus stories about cheques being mailed, and we cant get hold of our stats proving what we have sent.

Things reach a head.

I gave Steve a call, he got $6000 mailed out to us that day, with sincere apologies for the problems.

He gave us a FedEx number, and guess what? It did not work... until monday evening (FedEx did not add it into their system).

BANG: monday evening, the FedEx tracking starts to work, wednesday/thursday we recieve a nicew cheque.

two weeks later, without needing to ask for another payment, we get mailed our next FedEx cheque - for exactly what we are owed.

We have been waiting a week now for our next cheque, but are not worried about it - as Steve told us he was going to be overseas.

We have 100% faith that next week we will get our monies, in full.

This is our experiences with Steve, at first glance, it seems like we have been fucked about a bit with bullshit stories. BUT, there have always been good explanations to any problems, and they have always been resolved.

(just adding this so that people do know that there are cases where webmasters are _more_ than happy with Steve)


Richard.
pp Chris.

SexClicks
02-20-2000, 12:25 PM
This Guy is a Complete Loser !!!!
I would not deal the sweat off my balls with him.

Seems he has screwed others the same way he screwed with me. Fed Ex must have several complaints about him. Using JJJ's as a promotional tool and sucking traffic from webmasters and not being honost about it, makes him a real loser.

I am waiting for you (Steve) to threaten me with your lawyers again, you can't sue me for telling the truth and calling you a liar is not slanderous, unfortunatly, its not against the law to be a LIAR.

I will make sure that all of the webmasters are advised of your SUCK ASS TACTICS.

Dont Bother emailing me you loser, because I will not respond to trash, that gives our business a bad name.

Cya....................

WEJERKUHARD
02-21-2000, 01:07 AM
ok GUYS I WAS ONE of the first-2nd? to be RIPPED OFF BY THIS CON-ARTIST! here is his
sales pitch, first he wants your telephone#
then calls you and gives you this big SALES picth on how much he pays out per month ..and he uses JJJ= PORRNO.COM how he pays jjj 10k
per day and that is his HOOK LINE AND SINKER
and i know over now that at least 10 webmasters including me fell for that one!

then you ask him where is my check? he says it will be fed-xd out tomorrow, well a week goes by i IQC him again and ask him where is my check, he says oh? the bookeeper must have forgot? i will get back to you later? and that is the last time i ever heard of this
mother fucker! LIVE AND LEARN all others out there please dont use this guy as he is a FULL BLOW TRAFFIC CON ARTIST! and finally it has caught up with him! YES YOU STEVE YOU
RIPP-OFF PIECE OF SHIT!

JUST ADDING MY 10 cents

Ace
02-21-2000, 01:23 AM
Richard, don't you think it's weird that you have to email and call first to get your check?
Did you ever have to do that with other sponsors?
Think about it....

richard
02-21-2000, 04:04 AM
This is where the internet falls down.

Nothing is like a face to face meeting with someone.

When you deal in large (1000s of dollars) sponsors, yes, i would say it is normal to email and to speak on the phone with them.

Its weird to fuck - i dont know what anyone i deal with on the net. (except chris, and hes an ugly bastard...)
-------------------------------------------

I understand this post, and why people would like to know about sponsors ripping people off. I dont know your circumstances, and to be honest, they dont really come high on my priority list.

I do know that _we_ get paid by Steve, so dont start shooting off about JJJ being the only one getting paid.

Another little point, go ask ANY business how many complaints they get, to how many letters of appraisal they get.... the former always outweight the latter.

on that note,

Rich.

12clicks
02-21-2000, 09:36 AM
Steve Goldman is a CON ARTIST!
There are no two ways about it. We sent this CON ARTIST a wire for 5,000.00 to buy traffic from him. 1 hour into the traffic, we knew we were getting scammed and told him to stop the test and send us the balance. He promised to send the balance back (we have the emails) We had a Canadien lawyer chase him around for a while but it just wasn't worth it. He even went so far as to create a fake stats page to try to fool our lawyer into thinking he sent the traffic.

I can't say enough bad about this guy and his business.
STEVE GOLDMAN IS A CON ARTIST!
I'll happily stack my reputation against his and his supporters any day and let the chips fall where they may.
If I'm wrong, I've opened the door to be sued. I'll bet you no one walks thru that door.

WEJERKUHARD
02-21-2000, 05:33 PM
Well said 12clicks~:=)

I know a CON ARTIEST WHEN I SEE ONE..
AND Steve is the worst fast jacking talking
bullshitter i have ran into in this buisness.

Ron
02-21-2000, 11:50 PM
Well wide spread scam here, not only are people not getting paid, People are having money stolen! There are too many stories here to ignor!

Anth0ny
02-22-2000, 02:00 AM
If it matters, I don't know Steve, but I do know 12Clicks...

12Clicks hasn't lied to me ever, always sends me my checks on time and runs a tight ship.

Guess who I believe.

ASSHOLE
02-22-2000, 02:25 AM
LOLOLOL GOOD ONE AthoNy, BUT GET REAL, RON(AKA12CLICKS) IS A BIG SCAMMER HIMSELF, and as far as him paying ontime all the time,YOUR WRONG VERY WRONG...RIGHT RON and DONT LIE?

12clicks
02-22-2000, 09:05 AM
Well Asshole,

we do do our best to fuck cheaters. We don't pay them, we don't tell them we don't pay them, and we don't respond to cheaters email. We pay over 20,000 webmasters a month.

Asshole, you are obviously a cheater who is unhappy at being caught.
I'll happily stack my reputation against yours too. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Ron
02-22-2000, 11:38 AM
Excuse me for one damn second.. How can i scam people when i don't but exit traffic or pay anyone for hits?? Why don't you get your fucking stats right you freak!

I am humble webmaster. I work hard to keep a straight face and rep, i have NEVER cheated anyone!! I think this is a case of mistaken identity!!

Fucken prick get a life!

Ron
02-22-2000, 11:40 AM
Even after i posted my last message i am still steamed that such thingsa re beeing said about me!!! Hell i'd love to run a click program, MAD CASH!!! but i am not that fortunate!

Get your shit right before you go and say shit about people!! Especially in this business, one fucked up comment can ruin months of work!

PS. Go fuck your self asshole http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

cynthia
02-22-2000, 01:12 PM
er - Ron is also 12clicks's name. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/redface.gif

Ron
02-22-2000, 01:17 PM
well i understood that much, what got me agrivated was the ruthless attack on my name! It makes no difference to me what 12clicks does, but don't get me involved. This name is only an alias. So "asshole" don't get yer panties in a bunch!

ASSHOLE
02-22-2000, 02:14 PM
HEY 12 CLICKS TELL THIS FAG YOUR NAME IS RON ALSO...BEFORE HE HAS A BABY OR SOMETHING

richard
02-23-2000, 05:49 AM
http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gifHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA H http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

I fucking pissed myself when i read that.

! http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/eek.gif http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/eek.gif !

Rich.

12clicks
02-24-2000, 09:00 AM
uh, my name is steve

richard
02-24-2000, 10:18 AM
*lol*

so your the guy whos been bad mouthed on this board...

:P

bunnies
02-24-2000, 09:12 PM
Just to add to Steves Friend List http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif.. That fucker still owes me money to.. I am thinking of haveing my 1/4 of my main pages saying "Steve is an Asshole and do not do business with him" and then e-mail the asshole and tell him to look at my site and see what he thinks.. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif..

SexClicks
02-25-2000, 08:07 AM
And The Loser Continues............

Now Threatning with his big words and little stick to sue Ace, for telling the truth.

hahahhahahahahahha

Ron
02-25-2000, 12:17 PM
Bahh, bullshit, what grounds would he have to sue?

12clicks
02-25-2000, 08:43 PM
Anyone heard from this loser since his supposed return?

Ace
02-26-2000, 12:13 AM
Only have gotten threats of him via ICQ.
I'd like to hear of Richard if he has gotten his check yet.

mortanius
02-27-2000, 03:40 PM
Yeah, steve owes me money also. I ran his stuff for a week of exit traffic and he promissed to send me my check numerous times. He even gave me a tracking number once and said he sent the check. It never worked and i never recieved a check. Steve, you need to get ahold of me and send me my check.

mortanius@hotmail.com

icq: 2263938

Ace
02-28-2000, 06:08 PM
Steve just icq-ed me and send me a fedex tracking number. He told me he's gonna pay me my money.

Anton P
02-29-2000, 01:30 AM
Ace,

I am sure this time you will be paid by Steve. And for everyone else having problems just email Steve with your account number and how much you are owed and I am sure he will pay you, just like he did with Ace. I know it is not professional of him but there is nothing you can do about it, that is the way he runs his business. Unorganized? Yes I agree. But he will pay you if you email him.

Good Day/Night

Anton P.
Exitmoney.com

Anton P
02-29-2000, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Anton P:
Ace,

I am sure this time you will be paid by Steve. And for everyone else having problems just email Steve with your account number and how much you are owed and I am sure he will pay you, just like he did with Ace. I know it is not professional of him but there is nothing you can do about it, that is the way he runs his business. Unorganized? Yes I agree. But he will pay you if you email him.
If you are looking for a good and organized sponsor to sell your entrance or exit hits give us a try. No one was ever left behind, ever!!! Also if you have personal problems with Steve email me at anton@jrinternet.com or icq me at 48232065 and I will do my best to resolve them.


Good Day/Night

Anton P. http://www.ExitMoney.com

Anton P
02-29-2000, 01:35 AM
Ace,

I am sure this time you will be paid by Steve. And for everyone else having problems just email Steve with your account number and how much you are owed and I am sure he will pay you, just like he did with Ace. I know it is not professional of him but there is nothing you can do about it, that is the way he runs his business. Unorganized? Yes I agree. But he will pay you if you email him.
If you are looking for a good and organized sponsor to sell your entrance or exit hits give us a try. No one was ever left behind, ever!!! Also if you have personal problems with Steve email me at anton@jrinternet.com or icq me at 48232065 and I will do my best to resolve them.


Good Day/Night

Anton P. [/QUOTE]]http://www.ExitMoney.com[/QUOTE] (http://www.ExitMoney.com[/b)

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Anton P
02-29-2000, 01:36 AM
Ace,

I am sure this time you will be paid by Steve. And for everyone else having problems just email Steve with your account number and how much you are owed and I am sure he will pay you, just like he did with Ace. I know it is not professional of him but there is nothing you can do about it, that is the way he runs his business. Unorganized? Yes I agree. But he will pay you if you email him.
If you are looking for a good and organized sponsor to sell your entrance or exit hits give us a try. No one was ever left behind, ever!!! Also if you have personal problems with Steve email me at anton@jrinternet.com or icq me at 48232065 and I will do my best to resolve them.


Good Day/Night

Anton P. http://www.ExitMoney.com

Anton P
02-29-2000, 01:43 AM
Sorry Folks for this repeating messages. Maybe cause i am a little jerk i have no idea how to use it. Probably when i become a big jerk i will not make such mistakes.

Best Regards

ASSHOLE
02-29-2000, 07:35 AM
I NEVER DEALT WITH STEVE BUT IM SURE HE WILL PAY. BUT AS FAR AS BLIND LINKS AND 12 CLICKS, NO RON YOU ARE WRONG, YOUR COMPANY DOES NOT OWE ME ANYTHING, YOU ARE ALL PAID IN FULL, BUT AS FAR AS BEING ON FUCKING TIME YOU CANT LIE, SO DONT BE SAYING YOU ARE ALWAYS ON TIME WITH CHECKS, CAUSE THATS A BULLSHITTING LIE, AND FELLOW WEBMASTERS HATE BEING BULLSHITTED, ESPECIALLY BY A BLIND LINK SPONSOR

SexClicks
02-29-2000, 10:13 AM
Well, Thats Great ACE, Happy for you...I know you learned something out of all of this.

Here's What I learned, I made copies of portions of this thread, and if i dont get paid by tomorrow,(FedEx Does Overnight,hahahha), I am posting these views in our monthly Newsletter which gets released tomorrow.

I think its information my webmasters need, all 100 of them. I mean after all , they come to us for networking information. So Information they shall get.

Lets Rock and Rule

12clicks
02-29-2000, 02:53 PM
Asshole, the checks are always on time. maybe you should read the terms so you have an understanding of what "on time" means.
If you aren't happy, take down your links, I don't need your traffic.

ASSHOLE
02-29-2000, 04:14 PM
12 CLICKS..LOLOL.. YOU ARE SO FUNNY, IM BUSTING A GUT TRYING NOT TO LAUGH TO HARD AT YOU. IN REPLY TO TAKE DOWN MY LINKS I DONT NEED YOUR TRAFFIC, THOSE LINKS HAVE BEEN DOWN FOR SOME TIME NOW, EVER SINCE THE LAST CHECK I GOT FROM YOU CAME 2 WEEKS LATE. NOW AS FAR AS YOU NEEDING MY TRAFFIC, THATS ANOTHER THING, YOU DONT NEED MY TRAFFIC AS LONG AS YOU AND YOUR COMPANY KEEP KISSING NETPONDS ASS, AND KEEP SUCKING ALL THE NEWBIS INTO YOUR BLIND LINK PROGRAM, CAUSE NEWBIS ARE THE ONLY THING THAT MOJO TRAFFIC HAS GOING FOR THEM. RIGHT RON? AND DONT PONDER AROUND THE QUESTION, ANSWER IT AND TELL EVERYONE THE TRUTH.
SURE YOU HAVE A REPUTATION TO LIVE UP TO, BUT AT 2 CENTS A CLICK I WOULDNT WORRY ABOUT MY REP TO HARD, AND ALSO ABOUT THIS 2 CENTS A CLICK FROM UNIQUE IPs, WHAT ABOUT AOL IPs, WAIT I SEND YOU 6000 AOL SURFERS AND YOU ONLY COUNT IT AS 1 HIT CAUSE THEY ALL COME FROM THE SAME IP#, BOY HAVE YOU GOT THE TICKET FOR A BIG RIP OFF, AND WEBMASTERS THINK YOUR SPECIAL, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A LOW LIFE 2 CENT AOL STEALING IDIOT.
AND YOU GUYS THOUGHT STEVE WAS BAD, AT LEAST HE IS STEALING AND YOU ALL KNOW THIS, BUT 12 CLICKS IS KEEPING HIS STEALING SECRETS IN HIS POCKETS.
HOW SAD http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Anth0ny
02-29-2000, 06:22 PM
Big Ron,

Don't you just hate Anon posters?

Gonna be in NO in June, you going?

MrBrian
02-29-2000, 08:17 PM
i'll be in nola in may http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/redface.gif)

Steve Goldman
02-29-2000, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by ASSHOLE:
12 CLICKS..LOLOL.. YOU ARE SO FUNNY, IM BUSTING A GUT TRYING NOT TO LAUGH TO HARD AT YOU. IN REPLY TO TAKE DOWN MY LINKS I DONT NEED YOUR TRAFFIC, THOSE LINKS HAVE BEEN DOWN FOR SOME TIME NOW, EVER SINCE THE LAST CHECK I GOT FROM YOU CAME 2 WEEKS LATE. NOW AS FAR AS YOU NEEDING MY TRAFFIC, THATS ANOTHER THING, YOU DONT NEED MY TRAFFIC AS LONG AS YOU AND YOUR COMPANY KEEP KISSING NETPONDS ASS, AND KEEP SUCKING ALL THE NEWBIS INTO YOUR BLIND LINK PROGRAM, CAUSE NEWBIS ARE THE ONLY THING THAT MOJO TRAFFIC HAS GOING FOR THEM. RIGHT RON? AND DONT PONDER AROUND THE QUESTION, ANSWER IT AND TELL EVERYONE THE TRUTH.
SURE YOU HAVE A REPUTATION TO LIVE UP TO, BUT AT 2 CENTS A CLICK I WOULDNT WORRY ABOUT MY REP TO HARD, AND ALSO ABOUT THIS 2 CENTS A CLICK FROM UNIQUE IPs, WHAT ABOUT AOL IPs, WAIT I SEND YOU 6000 AOL SURFERS AND YOU ONLY COUNT IT AS 1 HIT CAUSE THEY ALL COME FROM THE SAME IP#, BOY HAVE YOU GOT THE TICKET FOR A BIG RIP OFF, AND WEBMASTERS THINK YOUR SPECIAL, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A LOW LIFE 2 CENT AOL STEALING IDIOT.
AND YOU GUYS THOUGHT STEVE WAS BAD, AT LEAST HE IS STEALING AND YOU ALL KNOW THIS, BUT 12 CLICKS IS KEEPING HIS STEALING SECRETS IN HIS POCKETS.
HOW SAD http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

12clicks
02-29-2000, 08:47 PM
Anthony,

Anon posters ruin any forum they are in. Cheaters and thieves hide behind anon posts and make up stories as they go.

Do I still run a blindlinks program? oh yeah, we still have a couple floating around.

Asshole, your info is old. ask netpond if I kiss their ass. Also, we're about 5 programs beyond blindlinks and considering its been copied at least 20 times, I'd say people like it.
Hey, did your shift at McDonalds end early tonight?

12clicks
02-29-2000, 08:51 PM
oh look, the thief showed up too!
hahahaha, nothing to say to the people you cheated huh?

Anth0ny
02-29-2000, 09:13 PM
I wish I could say Ron kissed my ass, it would be something to brag about.

As it is, he never kissed anyone ass to my knowledge.

Ron and Mojo run a straight and good program. I've used them in the past, and will use them even more in my non adult ventures.

I don't speak this as the moderator for this forumn, nor do I speak this as the General Manager of Netpond. I say this as a Webmaster.

Not many Sponsors I trust, but Mojo and Ron 12clicks I do.

Steve Goldman
02-29-2000, 10:22 PM
I don't know who you are 12clicks, but before you go round calling me a thief, get your facts straight. I don't remeber buying traffic from you, so watch your mouth loser

12clicks
03-01-2000, 07:50 AM
steve goldman,
I'm sure you remember my canadien lawyer you ran from. hahaha, go lie somewhere else.
You go anywhere I am online and I'll expose you for what you are.

Steve Goldman
03-01-2000, 08:53 AM
You ever sell me traffic?

I don't remeber, at least i don't use anon, I use my real name, so don't say I hide from anything

12clicks
03-01-2000, 02:00 PM
If you were ANYTHING in this business, you'd know exactly who I was.
You stole money from my company (standard internet) And you'll pay the price of me dogging you forever. I've got nothing but time, I don't mind spending it on you.

Steve Goldman
03-01-2000, 02:40 PM
I wish to thank all the people who have posted messages about me, they maybe incorrect, misrepresentations, lies or whatever. But the fact is, there's nothing better than publicity, and my program has signed up more new webmasters because of all the attention it has recieved.

Webmasters just keep up the dialogue it's making me money.

Cheers for now

Ace
03-01-2000, 02:51 PM
I just received my check from Steve. Took a while but I got it ;-)

12clicks
03-01-2000, 05:19 PM
Gee, there was a good dodge.

I'll bet this thread is bringing you signups.
Thief

bunnies
03-01-2000, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by bunnies:
Just to add to Steves Friend List http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif.. That fucker still owes me money to.. I am thinking of haveing my 1/4 of my main pages saying "Steve is an Asshole and do not do business with him" and then e-mail the asshole and tell him to look at my site and see what he thinks.. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif..

bunnies
03-01-2000, 05:28 PM
Hello everyone, I posted a few days ago,,cuz I was pissed that I did not get paid, but I just want to clear somethings up... I did get a hold of him and we chated for about 20min on ICQ and everything was explained to me on why he was no able to pay his webmasters.. We talked about 10:30am and I got My check around 10:30pm the next day.. I'm sure if who he owes money to just get a hold of him he will pay everyone that he owes money to...

Steve Goldman
03-01-2000, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by 12clicks:
Gee, there was a good dodge.

I'll bet this thread is bringing you signups.
Thief

Open offer to: Look 12clicks,or whatever your real name is.

If you have a legitimate concern, and want to discuss it, this is not the way to do it. It seems to me that you would rather bad mouth me and cry here than get to the solution. Here's my email,goobeldy1@usa.net if you want to email me and discuss your differences in a reasonable and mature manner go ahead. But calling names on this board is not the way to get anything worked out.

I am a very reasonable webmaster, anyone who feels they are owed or late in payments is getting paid. The point being, I am the first person to admit some people weren't paid while I was on vacation, each and everyone of them is either paid up now or has checks in the mail.

This offer stands, if you want to email me with whatever you feel is your concern, I will try to resolve it. But I think everyone is getting the point that we're in direct competiton with eachother, and all you seem to be trying to accomplish is give me a hard time.

So what you say 12clicks

Is there a problem we should discuss in a mature way or is this a case of just bad mouthing the competiton?

Your call

12clicks
03-01-2000, 11:21 PM
Steve, you had the chance to talk in a mature way to my lawyer that we had to hire because when we asked you "in a mature way" to give us back the money we sent you because we didn't have a deal after all, you decided you were better off building a fake stats page than giving us the money.
You want me to go away, send us the money you owe us. I believe its about $5k
If you decide not to, I will get my 5,000.00 worth of posts in. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Steve Goldman
03-02-2000, 12:34 AM
12clicks, I guess we've accomplished a few facts in this forum. You've accused me of being a stealing money from your company, being a loser, running from your lawyer, and whatever else you posted here.

I think webmasters who read these messages are pretty intelligent, they can tell when someone is trying to be reasonable and trying to work out problems.

I posted earlier that if you have a problem email me lets talk about it and see what it is.

You haven't done that, but instead you post another message to discredit me, and bad mouth me.

I believe if you had a problem, and wanted to work it out, you would email me and discuss it to reach a resolution.

I am trying to resolve any misunderstandings with people. I could come up with a dozen excuses to not pay my webmasters, I could accuse them of cheating or breaking the rules, I could plain ignore them, but NO instead I have told everyone who has contacted me that their check will go out the next day, and those checks have gone out the next day.

What I believe is going on is a publicity campaign to discredit me and my programs.
And intelligent webmasters can see that.

I will answer any posting that I feel is wrong, I will talk to anyone who feels they have a problem, I'm not going to roll away and go out of business because you say things about me, or anyone else.

If you want to talk over whatever you have a problem email me, goobeldy1@usa.net

I suggest to readers here that anyone who has a problem or question does the same thing. I also suggest to the readers that if anyone has a problem and doesn't email me but wants to conduct an endless series of posts here it won't resolve the problem.

My offer to you 12clicks still stands, do you want to discuss and reslove your differences? Then get intouch with me.
Maybe you should have your lawyers get in touch with mine, I have nothing to hide or run from, especially $5000. I pay more than that a few hours for traffic. It really is not a big deal.

Its nothing personal, there's 2 sides to every story, but this is not the place nor the way to try and resolve a misunderstanding.

Anyways, since I said it before, I'll say it again, this free publicity is making me a lot of money. Webmasters are getting to know what I offer in my program. So here it is one more time.

The bottom line is I accept any exit, I don't count unique IP's, I count a hit as a hit, as long as it gets to my url its counted. And I pay what I think is one of the highest payouts out there.

12clicks
03-02-2000, 10:49 AM
ok steve you've got mail. time for you to shit or get off the pot.
show yourself as a thief or someone who is misunderstood.

Steve Goldman
03-02-2000, 11:11 AM
well I'm NOT a THIEF FOR SURE, and yes I will respond to your email, and see what your problem is.
http://www.garbagetraffic.com pays HALF a CENT a HIT and everyone in my program is happy, you don't see anyone complaining about me shaving, or counting unique IP's do you?

The fact remains that I DON'T shave when I buy traffic and I don't shave when I sell traffic.

See you

12clicks
03-02-2000, 01:19 PM
oh, ok. you can post here but not answer my mail. you're a fraud.
This whole thread is about you scamming your webmasters. I didn't even get here until 10 people were bitching about you.
but now that I'm here, I like this board, I think I'll stay.

Wuf
03-02-2000, 03:08 PM
You know Steve, the last time somebody
cheated 12 clicks, I heard they had to
retire.

....

Wuf
03-02-2000, 03:31 PM
Hello Anthony. How is life today?

Steve Goldman
03-02-2000, 05:56 PM
Well answer my email, I told you in there to give me your number or call me at 5146208307

Better still just email me your lawyers number I'll have my lawyer contact him.

Steve Goldman
03-02-2000, 05:59 PM
I have no idea who you are wuf, but I don't remeber dealing with you, so whats your problem?

And as for retiring, I ain't going no where, just growing bigger everyday.

So why don't you keep your opinions to yourself. Anyways
http://www.garbagetraffic.com

Half a cent a hit, no games guys.

I think i'll use every reply to posts about me to remind everyone why they should join my program.

MrBrian
03-02-2000, 08:15 PM
Removed by Special Request

[Note: This message has been edited by Rimmer]

moose
03-02-2000, 08:23 PM
LOL now wuf is here http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif


this ones for you:

*yawn* http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Due
03-02-2000, 11:03 PM
I don't do any buss. with Steve or 12clicks .

What I DO know is that I heard that 12clicks did NOT like TGP traffic so what I did was that I contacted 12clicks via ICQ and asked him if my galleries was okay with his rules.... he said okay... He also paid me, even though that I did NOT live in the US (his new rule first kicked in after I started). The point is that he fucked me by not telling me that he after aprox 4-5 days said he DID NOT WANNNA PAY FOR NON US traffic... I saw that on the PC board. And he has supposed to send a E-mail to everyone that signed up for his program.
I was signed up with 2 account... I did not get ANY mails at all... [I get all mail send something like ( I_can_t_send_a_e_mail-help@mdue.dk and I get it.... you can write whatever you whant and I will get it if it ends up with 1 of my domains)
So 12clicks... even though you paid me the $90 that I got from you for the clicks I would say that you are WASTED ( not a thread wasted=someone in your family got your brain NOT you)... If you can't keep what you promise then you should not be in the buz. whit adult entertainment.
My simple rules for having a good live;
1: Don't cheat anyone you promised something
2: Don't cheat anyone at ALL

12clicks, Don't think I'm mad at you afterall I only spend around 12 hours changing all the links you said that was OK.
So don't come her calling anyone a cheater. If anyone is a fucking cheater it is you

ASSHOLE
03-03-2000, 05:00 AM
LOLOLOLOL 12 CLICKS, LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE ANOTHER FAN...HEY I GOT AN IDEA, I THINK IM GOING TO START A 12 CLICKS THREAD, AND THEN EVERYONE CAN POST HOW MUCH OF AN (ASSHOLE) YOU REALLY ARE, AND I WONDER HOW MANY WEBMASTERS ARE OWED MONEY BY MOJO OR STANDARD.
12 CLICKS = LOSER

12clicks
03-03-2000, 07:26 AM
due, if you are saying you didn't get an email, then you lie. that simple. When you asked me if your links were ok and I told you they were, it was not 4-5 days before we banned non-US webmasters for rawlikesush.com. Don't even try that lie you scum. The fact that you admit getting a check for 90.00 shows that you were in the program much longer than 4-5 days.

Asshole, make your thread. The thing that separates me from steve is that you'll have to go out and get your friends to post bad stuff about me. Go do your best, stay anonymous, no one cares. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

RAM
03-03-2000, 08:41 AM
I must agree with 12 clicks. He has been paying me on time every time. Also I have had to contact to ask about links and have gotten a quick response every time either buy ICQ, E-mail and Phone.

SexClicks
03-03-2000, 09:44 AM
You Know, 12Clicks can be an ass, in fact , i have probably called him that many of times. But one thing can never be said about him, and trust me, I have had alot of dealings with him , and thats a cheat. 12clicks no matter what has paid me. and when in doubt of anything, He has always kept his word......So I back him up now.....

and so far to date...i still have not received my check..........

SexClicks
03-03-2000, 09:46 AM
I mean i have still not received my check from steve........

Wuf
03-03-2000, 10:00 AM
Thank you moose. *stretch* *sigh* LOL

Steve opinions are like assholes...
If you don't want any, don't air dirty laundry on a posting board.

Another "do as I say not as I do" individual.

Steve Goldman
03-03-2000, 05:30 PM
I have 1 question for you. Have you evr sold me traffic, and if so, have you not been paid?

I find it hillarious that people who have never even dealt with me are posting opinions about me and my business.

Okay as promissed, every reply deserves a plug for my programs.
http://www.garbagetraffic.com

HALF a cent a hit!

Steve Goldman
03-03-2000, 05:35 PM
Oh and for that post by MrBrian

A we have never done business together, so why are you expressing an opinion for someone else,

It seems that this has become an oppurtunity for my competiton to just bad mouth me, even if they have never done business with me.

Oh here goes the plug one more time
http://www.garbagetraffic.com HALF a CENT a HIT no gimmicks!!!

MrBrian
03-03-2000, 06:20 PM
steve ie retard
you called me over christmas vacation
danny is my partner and you sent him over 3 million FAKE hits. i think fucking over a business partner involves me.
you wanted me to BUY your hits and i said no.
thats why we havent done any business

Steve Goldman
03-03-2000, 06:29 PM
MrBrian,

Yeh thats right you icqed me to buy traffic, and I did call you, but I was the first person to tell you I would not sell you traffic.
Secondly, here is another outright slanderous posting. If I buy and resell exit and someone does send fake hits, thats not my fault. secondly if I do catch such a thing I redo the traffic. And you know very well the "so called fake hits" were a mistake by one of my sources, and he did resend the traffic.

I think you need to be carefull what you say about me and the source because, we both hate slander and lies.

ASSHOLE
03-04-2000, 05:30 AM
STEVE IF I WERE YOU I WOULD START THREATENING SOME LAW SUITS.
OH YEAH SEX CLICKS THE FAG, THE ONE WHO TRIED TO STEAL ALL NCAW AND THUMBLORD MEMBERS IS HERE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE STEALING, LOL. MAN YOUR BANNED FROM MOST OF THE BIGGEST TGPS OUT THERE JUST BECAUSE YOUR A THEIF, YES SEX CLICKS HAS 100 SITES IN HIS OPERATION BUT THOSE 100 SITES TOGETHER DONT EVEN COME CLOSE TO THE AMOUNT OF HITS I GET IN 1 DAY.
12 CLICKS AS FAR AS YOUR THREAD GOES IT WILL BE STARTED WHEN YOU LEAST SUSPECT IT, AND I THINK ILL COPY ALL OF THE THREAD AND POST IT AT CONDOM, NOW AS I SAID B-4 12 CLICKS DONT OWE ME SHIT, HIS LOSER COMPANY IS PAID UP IN FULL, BUT SEEMS HE CANT PAY ONTIME. NOW AS FAR AS STAYING ANNONYMOUS, RON IF I TOLD YOU WHO I WAS YOU WOULD RUN FOR THE HILLS AND NEVER COME BACK AGAIN, SO ILL STAY ANON JUST SO I CAN LAUGH AT YOUR POST, AND YOU TRYING TO COVER YOUR ASS, AND BY THE WAY GUYS ITS A LITTLE DIFFERENT WHEN YOUR SENDING RON 100,000 HITS A MONTH THEN WHEN YOUR SENDING HIM 20000, THE FACT IS WHEN IT COMES TO BIG BUCKS MOJO HAS A PROBLEM GETTING THE FUNDS, OH I REMEMBER YOUR LAST EXCUSE ABOUT WHY MY CHECK WAS LATE, (NO ONE WAS IN YOUR OFFICE FOR LAST WEEK SO WE DIDNT GET A CHANCE TO SEND THEM OUT), NOW WHAT KIND OF BULL IS THAT, A BIG TIME SPONSOR AND NOBODY IS THERE TO SEND OUT CHECKS...LOL, ITS MORE LIKE WE DIDNT HAVE THE FUNDS TO PAY YOU SO WE AVOIDED YOU UNTIL WE HAD YOUR MONEY, AND I ALSO DO KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IM NOT THE ONLY ONE RON AND HIS LOSER COMPANY HAS AVOIDED. AS A MATTER OF FACT I NEVER RAN INTO A SPONSOR THAT MAKES UP MORE EXCUSES SINCE CYBERTHRILL AND THERE BIG SCAM.
SO RON TAKE YOUR LITTLE JERKING HAND ELSEWHERE AND GO JERK OFF TO ANOTHER BOARD, CAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT ALL YOU DO IS POST MESSAGES EVERYWHERE AND YOU HAVE TO BE GETTING OFF WHILE DOING THIS.

SexClicks
03-04-2000, 05:57 AM
HaHaHaHa....I think your annyomous name says it all...Because you have no idea what you are talking about. ThumbLords were never involved,and NCAW is whole new ballgame. So you might as well go back to Disney Land.....and play out your fantasy world.

ASSHOLE
03-04-2000, 06:36 AM
I DONT LOLOLOLOL, WANNA TRY AGAIN IDIOT. KURT BARK UP THE WRONG TREE AND YOU WILL GET BURNED.
DOES THIS LOOK FAMILIAR, OH YES THAT RIGHT YOU DONT HAVE ACCESS


NCAW BLACKLIST

SEX CLICKS OR ANY SITES ASSOCIATED WITH SEX CLICKS

CROWN ROYAL

THUMB KINGS

WHY DONT YOU GO AHEAD AND EMAIL RED...LOL
FOOL AND A FAGGET ALL IN ONE

SexClicks
03-04-2000, 09:11 AM
Thats still all funny.....You have no clue of what your talking about...

hahahahah.....

and the name calling WOW....your intellegence intriques me, for someone who hides....hahahha.....

Say what you may, think what you want, do what you will...It makes me feel good that it bothers you.

but always keep in mind......

We do just fine without you....

ciao....have a great day......lol

ddasilva
03-07-2000, 05:51 PM
Hey Steve, this is Dan. I emailed you last Thursday asking if you could send me my check. I haven't heard any response from you yet and I can't reach you on ICQ cause you're never online.

Please let me know if you have recieved my email and if you're going to send me my check. Thanks,

Dan

12clicks
03-08-2000, 04:43 PM
well, Mardi Gras seems to have gotten in the way of this thread.

Asshole, you say," RON IF I
TOLD YOU WHO I WAS YOU WOULD RUN FOR THE HILLS AND NEVER COME BACK AGAIN."

I say,"you tell us all who you are. I'll bet I don't run"
You hide because you fear. It's that simple. And your bullshit about not paying, then paying late, whatever your story is, you're alone in your opinions.
You're nothing, stay that way. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

ASSHOLE
03-08-2000, 05:31 PM
READ THE POST MORON I NEVER DID SAY YOU DIDNT PAY, I DID SAY YOUR COMPANY IS WORTHLESS IF YOUR LOOKING FOR A COMPANY THAT PAYS ONTIME, CAUSE YOUR COMPANY DONT.
FIGURE OUT THESE INITIALS
BF
THEN IF YOU REALLY THINK HARD YOU'LL KNOW WHO I AM

mutley
03-08-2000, 05:36 PM
chicken.

12clicks
03-08-2000, 06:49 PM
BF= Butt Fuck?

like I said, you're a liar and a nobody. Revealing who you are will only verify that.

Ron
03-09-2000, 02:12 AM
Well i am looking to sell my exit traffic to SOME ONE!!! But to be honest i don't know what to do now!

I go with steve: i make half a cent per exit, but will i get paid?

I go with Brain: Hell yeah i'll get paid, but i will not make as much.

I go with Killah: Bahh i tried 4 times to contact him, notta.

So i have only 2 choices? This is kinda funny cause i bet steve is getting some nice promo. Even though it isn't good. I mean when it all boils down, i'll prob end up going with steve. For the plain fact i'll make more and get it every week! So his page says anyways http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

ASSHOLE
03-09-2000, 06:35 AM
COME ON 12 CLICKS I WOULDNT USE YOUR ALIAS, YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHO I AM LOOK IN THE TOP 10 AT WEB SIDE STORY AND THEN FIGURE IT OUT FROM THERE.
IF YOU CANT FIGURE IT OUT YOUR JUST AS STUPID AS I THOUGHT

12CLICKS = LOSER AND WAY LATE PAYMENTS, DONT USE ANY OF MOJO PROGRAMS UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR CHECKS 2 AND 3 WEEKS LATE

12clicks
03-09-2000, 08:23 AM
Asshole, you were smart enough to give yourself a fitting name, now be smart enough to know that I won't go chasing assholes to webside story or where ever it is you think you're big at. If you're anon, you're small, period.
you told me I'd run for the hills if you told me who you are. Well bigshot, I'm still waiting. Make me run.

12clicks
03-09-2000, 01:26 PM
oh, and one more thing.
Once school lets out, you'll be able to post all day long and look like a REAL big shot.
hahahaha, stay anon, you're worthless

ddasilva
03-09-2000, 05:59 PM
Hello Everyone. I have not realized until today that I have recieved my check from Steve Goldman from garbagetraffic.com
When my wife checked the mail, she saw the check and thought it was a check from another sponsor. So she went ahead and deposited the check in our bank.

Steve kept insisting that he had fed exed the check but I told him I haven't recieved it. Now I found out that Steve has sent the check but we didn't know it was from him.

So this fuck up was on my part. Sorry about that Steve.

Dan

Ron
03-09-2000, 06:16 PM
Asshole: Ok before i was fired up this time i'll be calm. I am not 12clicks, i have no idea who he is, i run a CJ site. Ultravirgins.com/cj/, I don't buy traffic. Check my Nic info!

my name's
Ryan Bailey
I live In Canada, Calgary to be exact. In the PROVINCE of Alberta! So please, before you say things get your fucking shit together!

http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif
Your friendly Naborhood Ron

ASSHOLE
03-09-2000, 08:34 PM
THATS IT SOMEONE CALL AN AMBULANCE HES HAVING A BABY!!!
LISTEN FUCKHEAD 12 CLICKS REAL NAME IS RON, RON, RON, WHEN I WRITE THE NAME RON IM TALKING TO 12 CLICKS NOT YOUR FAGGET FUCKING PUSSY ASS.

12CLICKS = LOSER
RYAN(AKA RON) = FAGGET FUCKING PUSSY ASS

WHAT A PAIR, I THINK THEY NEED TO GET LAID OR SOMETHING, OR EVEN START DATING EACH OTHER

12clicks
03-09-2000, 08:50 PM
school's out I see.

Steve Goldman
03-09-2000, 10:13 PM
First of all thanks dan, you're a gentleman.
and wish you the best.

Hey guys this was supposed to be about me, can't you start a new topic?

I sort of feel left out last few days, no ones bitching about me, my traffic is going down, I need some free publicity.

nicce2
03-10-2000, 03:54 AM
Hi Steve I have tried to be a Gentleman too, I havent bad mouthed you here before, and i even called you on the phone asking where my money where. You promised me to send the check via fedex, but you newer did, the tracking number was not found:-(
But yesterday you did send a fedex letter...
But it has a "Must be returned to canada" attachment, is this just too fool me? Why send a letter and have it returned, like a boomerang?
..I finaly thought I was going to recieve what I have earned, but i guess you just dont care about longterm partnerships.

NiCCe :-(

12clicks
03-10-2000, 09:08 AM
Steve,
we can pick up your thread again. I'm still waiting for the money you owe us. You want me to call, you want an Email etc, etc, The fact is that the only way you can NOT know about the 5k you owe me is if you owe SO many people that you can't keep it strait.
If you want to pay what you owe, send a check. If not, so be it.

Steve Goldman
03-10-2000, 01:29 PM
Okay 12clicks

Now I feel "in" after all this was my thread right?

if you want to talk and stop bullshitting here, either put your phone number here or email me goobeldy1@usa.net

You never did reply to my last 2 emails, so lets see if you want to talk or just post crap here for ever

Oh here goes the plug, half a cent a hit
http://www.garbagetraffic.com

hp
03-10-2000, 04:04 PM
Steve, I have waited for my money since the last week in January. I sent you an email 3-4 weeks ago, never got reply. You do answer my ICQ messages, until I put a $ in them, and there is no reply.

Please email me at:
webmaster@sex-eden.com
or
icq me: 1014171

Thanks

mutley
03-10-2000, 04:35 PM
ASSHOLE, no one is taking your childish all-caps replys serious. Only a coward, or a prankster, is anonymous and say things like that.

ASSHOLE
03-10-2000, 07:35 PM
WHAT EVER BUT IT SURE GETS ALOT OF READERS
http://www.garbagetraffic.com

the best paying program on the web

ASSHOLE
03-10-2000, 07:39 PM
We need to make some minor adjustments to the RawLikeSushi.com
payout structure.
Effective March 15, 2000:
Graphics links will be reduced .01 (one cent) to $0.03
Text links will be reduced by .0075 (three quarters of a cent) to $0.0225

NOW THIS IS BULLSHIT, I DONT BELIEVE YOU GUYS STAND BEHIND 12 CLICKS AND HIS FUCKING SUCKY STUPID ASS PROGRAM

12clicks
03-10-2000, 08:31 PM
Steve,

you can bullshit these guys but not me. You owe me money. Telling you in an email or on the phone won't change that. I'm not interested in doing what YOU want to get money owed me. I'll do as I want until you pay me.
In fact, I'm thinking of opening an exit program just to get my money back at your expense. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Asshole, they take it because its honest.
You going to tell us who you are so I can run for the hills. Everyone here would love to see someone make me run. I'm sure you are the guy to do it.

ASSHOLE
03-11-2000, 06:12 AM
YOU DO IT BECAUSE YOU REALLY CANT AFFORD TO PAY THE BIG BUCKS, WHEN WEBMASTERS START SENDING GOOD TRAFFIC TO YOUR FAG ASS PROGRAMS YOU ALWAYS SEEM TO LOWER THE RATE, AND THEN CHECKS COME LATE ALL THE TIME, REASONS BEING IS BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE THE FUNDS TO COVER THE CHECKS

ALL WEBMASTERS GO HERE, STEVE SOUNDS LIKE HE TREATS HIS WEBBYS RIGHT http://www.garbagetraffic.com

AND FORGET RON AND HIS MOJO TRAFFIC PROGRAMS CAUSE THEY TRULY SUCK ASS

OH RON I LOVE THIS SHIT CAUSE IM GETTING TO YOU, YOU ARE SO WORRIED, THATS WHY YOU KEEP REPLYING, AND I THINK IM GOING TO START ON OTHER BOARDS REAL SOON. YOUR FULL TIME JOB WILL BE JUST CHECKING BOARDS AND FOLLOWING MY LEAD.

12 CLICKS = LOSER AND WAY LATE PAYMENTS

12clicks
03-11-2000, 09:38 AM
Asshole, I do this just to piss people like you off. you sit there in your momma's house, on your momma's computer pretending your someone in this business. The thing you aren't seeing here is that NO ONE is going to take your word over mine. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
I'm simply here to keep a thread that says, "Steve the guy who buys exit traffic is a crook" at the top of this BBS.
You are simply an entertaining diversion.
Oh, is your homework done yet? Mommy's going to be mad!

ASSHOLE
03-11-2000, 02:39 PM
I GOT AN IDEA IF YOUR SUCH A TRUSTED AND RESPECTED PERSON LEAVE YOUR ADDRESS RIGHT HERE AND ILL SEE YOU NEXT WEEKEND, TO KICK YOUR LITTLE MOJO FAG ASS

ASSHOLE
03-11-2000, 02:46 PM
12 CLICKS = LOSER AND WAY LATE PAYMENTS

ASSHOLE
03-11-2000, 02:47 PM
12 CLICKS = LOSER AND WAY LATE PAYMENTS

ASSHOLE
03-11-2000, 02:48 PM
12 CLICKS = LOSER AND WAY LATE PAYMENTS

TheBigGuy
03-11-2000, 02:58 PM
Looks to like 12clicks is a saint we should all take his opinions as gospel,LOL

I hate to say it but before you runaround calling people names you should straighten your own house first 12clicks.

Peopl in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Peace and prosperity to all

ASSHOLE
03-12-2000, 06:01 AM
HEY BIG GUY, 12 CLICKS IS JUST PISSED CAUSE HE CANT AFFORD TO PAY THE BIG BUCKS WHEN ITS DUE, SO HE WILL NOT ANSWER EMAILS AND AVOID YOU UNTIL HE HAS THE FUNDS TO COVER THE CHECKS, WHICH IN MY CASE WAS 2 AND SOMETIMES 3 WEEKS LATE, AND I ALSO KNOW OTHER WEBBYS THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ALSO.
THE COMPANY THAT 12 CLICKS WORKS FOR IS ALWAYS COMING OUT WITH NEW PROGRAMS, AND THEN KILLING THE OLDER PROGRAMS BY LOWERING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE PAID, NOW THERE HAS TO BE A REASON FOR THIS, HOW CAN YOU OPEN ANOTHER CLICKTHRU PROGRAM WHEN YOU CANT AFFORD TO PAY FOR THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY RUNNING, WAIT A MINUTE, I GOT AN IDEA. HEY 12 CLICKS WHY DONT YOU GET YOUR NEW PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING THEM WEBBYS CAN GET A GOOD TRAFFIC FLOW GOING THEN EMAIL THEM AND TELL THEM YOUR LOWERING BY 2 CENTS..THATS A BUNCH OF BS.
OH YEAH WHY DID SERGE NICKNAME YOU 12 CLICKS AGAIN.HMMM. HE SHOULD HAVE NICKNAMED YOU LOSER.

12CLICKS = LOSER AND WAY LATE PAYMENTS

12clicks
03-12-2000, 03:11 PM
Geez asshole, please, I'm begging you to stop. you're going to put me out of business. You've found out our M.O.
Damn, please lighten up. I'm so in fear of your internet power. You have no idea how many webmasters have quit our program because of you.

hahahahahaha

thebigguy, who are you again?
right, that's what I thought.

ASSHOLE
03-13-2000, 04:54 AM
I STILL DONT SEE YOU ADDRESS FAG, LEAVE IT AND ILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND KICK YOUR ASS

12CLICKS = LOSER AND WAY LATE PAYMENTS

Rimmer
03-13-2000, 06:48 AM
Looks like the posts on Steve have died and this has become 12 Clicks vs ASSHOLE.

I'm getting bored with this thread ... time for a new one!