UCJ-C vs Scorpion the 54th :)

[Coke]

Hi

Well I'm new in this business http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif and so I'd like to know what script I should purchase... The Scorpion or UCJ-C III.
In my view the UCJ (I read the articles at cyclejerk and adultwebmasterinfo) is a bit better... Apparently its speed is higher than the Scorpion's and I think that's the most important factor (in a newbie's opinion).

The price, of course, is also a point for UCJ hehe
Traffictrade isn't an option for me because I want my script to be hosted at my server because prefer trusting in myself http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Btw I don't even know if the Scorpion is written in C as well (I hope so http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif ).

So please let me know your experiences about these 2 scripts which, apparently, are both very good.

Thank you for your help!

Greets
Coke

[richard]

get Blindio

[Ron]

Just about all good scripts are writen in C or PHP now days. (correct me if i'm wrong)

To be deadly honest. Blindo is running the bigger sites now days, but i would bet Scorpion and UCJ come close (# of sites i mean). It's hard to tell someone what is the best script.

Just for the plain fact that every one has their presonal prefference in features.

[hp]

I would also recommend Blindio!

If anything is worth $2k it is Blindio.

[Coke]

Yep BlindIO seems to be the program used by the biggest sites... but I don't understand what features blindio has which UCJ-C doesn't http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
I mean the price is pretty high ($2k isn't a little amount to start a project http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif) and UCJ-C seems to be the fastest one (what I've heard in the previos topics).

So does anyone of you run 2 sites with UCJ-C and Blindio for example and what are the features BlindIO has which UCJ doesn't?

btw do you know the site's url where BlindIO is demonstrated? On cyclejerk there isn't mentioned the url.

Thanks for your help

Greets
Coke

[hp]

Blindio is VERY fast.

Dan and rEyes coded it for maximum speed, and it uses MySQL as its database.

[richard]

Speed is important - relative to server load.

If you wanna talk about something fast, go shat with Pro, i think he is using php3, with ASM (!!!!!).

He doesnt use a database, the infos are kept in the RAM.. ahhhh, nice.

Rich.

[Ron]

I sure hope Pro will set his script to back up his DB though, what happens if his server crashes? or runs out of memory...?

Or is that not even an issue?

[Coke]

Naw he doesn't ever need to reboot the machine http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Well I guess I'll buy the UCJ-C script... I think it's the best solution.

Thanks for your help guys

Hope we'll exchange traffic soon hehe

Coke

[Dan]

Hi,

You're speaking about features & speed. In my opinion, the most important thing in a script is how it is sending outgoing traffic. Yes, everybody compares scripts by their features and speeds (what is possible to see). BUT, that's not the way it should be. Yes, features are important to successfully manage your site, but if your script is sending randomly outgoing hits to your partners, it's worth shit.

In fact, there are tons of ways to code a script. Me & reyes worked almost 2 months tuning the out.cgi or blindio. I think this is why sites using it climb faster in the ST stats than the other sites. This is because the hits are sent in a more intelligent way.

Now I need to correct a few things.
First of all, coding a script in assembly is dumb (sorry Pro). It has been PROVED that C compilers generates faster (more optimal) ASM code than humans can do.

Also, MySQL now supports tables that are stored into RAM. You just need to use it. Simple.

That's worth my 0.003c (not / raw) http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Regards
Dan

[Rimmer]

I'm not saying Blind IO isn't a good script but the reason it has the biggest sites is:

NickD run's Blind IO ... he used to have 200k with ES even so he's a classy webmaster. Webmastering ability/connections has a huge impact of how you make it to the top. I believe that if he ran any script blindIO, scorpion or UCJ-C he'd still be there.

UCJ-C is lighter load script than Blind IO ... don't get me wrong in that I'm saying Blind IO is slow or heavily loads the machine or anything .. just ucj-c IO routines are extremely optimized for speed.

Pornlisting.net (UCJ-C) was doing 110k uniques a day last time I checked .. Topteenz.com was doing over 100 k (UCJ-C) uniques a day plus there is a bunch of other ucj-c's in the top 100.

I for instance spend almost nil time per day maintaining/promoting trades with topteenz.com. I just let the productivity tracking feature do the work for me. I know for a fact that other webmasters at the top spend countless hours babysitting their script / trades. No other script on the market is leave and forget.

[Dan]

Yes you're right, the most important is the webmaster, not the script.

I suppose every script has its advantages & inconvenients. Anyway, we're not in this business to sell a lot of scripts as you & Krister do. I was not trying to make any publicity for my script, I just wanted to clear up things a bit because usually I don't say anything when ppl are talking about scripts http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I can tell you from my experiences that BIO is faster than ES was (and probably 5 times master than Scorpion). I don't know for UCJ-C. Maybe you did a great job http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I think that will all the well known scripts there is a couple of success stories. And it's normal that everybody thinks he has the best script..

Btw with BIO you can switch to productivity mode (like UCJ) or to the old unique/raw mode (like ES/Scorpion) for each trade.

That's about it. Since there is no website advertising our script I just wanted to make sure that ppl aren't thinking false things about it. I won't mention anyone, but I know that some ppl would be ready to say almost anything about someone else just to sell a script.

Regards,
Dan

[WEJERKUHARD]

PERSONALLY I think all you script makers
way over charge for them , what others scripts out there you see that cost 2000$
for a bunch of code, i have spent 3000$
on these dam things and dont think they are all that!!! a script that costs $2000 to me
is worth about 300-400 tops$ i think all you script makers are making way to much money
off this..

just my i pennys worth..

[TheDoc]

If spending $2000-$3000 is to much money
to spend on the idea that you can make
$100,000 a month then your in the wrong business http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I personally use Blindio (and have many
good high trades with ucj sites) both are
great - major difference is the ratio factor
one is preset, other is set on the production
of the incoming traffic. I prefer preset, others like it to be based on production.

Basicly when I founded LinkX over a year ago
now, I just bow down to the guys doing scripts now and thanks for taking a few guys
idea and making it what it is today http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Pricing on the script is perfect, it only
takes a few days to code, oh only a few weeks
to debug and get working perfectly, so 2k for a script even 10k is fine for something someone spends ENDLESS time updating.

Not my two sents just straight facts baby!

TheDoc

[richard]

WEJERKUHARD: http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/eek.gif

Supply/Demand.

They can be sold for a load of buck, because YOU are prepared to buy them. If people did not buy them, then the prices would be lower.

TheDoc is right, its a tiny investment compared to the returns that are possible.

Infact, its a good thing http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif that they are priced where they are. If you seld them for $400 then there would be a _shitload_ more CJ starting up, and the whole thing gets fucked.

Rich

[richard]

burn baby - burn.

[richard]

GRRR. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/mad.gif

[Ron]

Richard i like the faces ;

[Pro]

Two things about the ProPorn script, it is fast, and hey, I have a C version of it already(90% functional) , and right now the ASM version is being made, the thing is that programming is at the end of my daily things to do, and it seems I can not delage this job to anyone else. It seems that there isn't too many people out there that know how memory is handled by kernel. It seems that most programmers used IPC, know how it works, but they don't know how to truly use it.
Currently I use the php version of it with some subroutines I wrote in asm, hey it's doing just fine.
I don't even have the time to concentrate on my site. Too many new exiting things comming out that will make CJ sites look like a tiny apple in the garden.

The current version of ProPorn works fine, it can handle a stress test of 130cps(Connections per second) on a fast machine. As far as memory, memory leakage, or anything is of no concern for the script.

TT OR !

Pro

[WEJERKUHARD]

As far as the script pricing goes,
when you pay $2000 for the thing
you shuold be able to have a copy and
or at least be able to use it on
2-3 sites during time of install and
not have to pay an extra 1k or so?
as Far as making 100,000 per mo?
that may be only 1-2 sites in cj
that do that, then after there Bandwidth
bill how much is left? most guys i know
just make 100-200 day tops with the CJ site

just my 2 cents..

[MrBrian]

looks like richard had some hot chili and is taking a shit...lol http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

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