View Full Version : space4porn.com is back, after being blocked by UUNET.
Anthony Raff
08-22-2001, 09:45 AM
For the last 4 days, it's been driving me crazy trying to figure out why some people couldn't access my freehost www.space4porn.com (http://www.space4porn.com)
Well I found out yesterday UUNET blocked access to my domain on their edge routers. It's still unknown why at this point, but we've opened a ticket and working hard to fix the problem with them. One UUNET tech explains it could be because of too many spam complaints. Maybe one of the freehost members was spamming there account or something. But I never got any emails about.. if I did I would have deleted the account right-away.
It sucks that they can just block access to anyone anytime for what seems like any reason. We made some mods and access has resummed world-wide.
All www.space4porn.com (http://www.space4porn.com) hosting customers I want you to know access has is back to normal and I will keep working hard to find out why and fix the problems.
Our deepest apologies go out you guys.
Thanks for your continued support.
Friendly regards
Anthony R
www.space4porn.com/wm1.html (http://www.space4porn.com/wm1.html)
playa
08-22-2001, 05:55 PM
4 days too fix it?
fucking UUNET... i'd be looking for some type of refund from them
Where are you guys getting bandwidth from UUNET I thought space4porn was using Broadwings bandwidth?
Rodent
08-23-2001, 05:04 PM
They dont have to buy it from them to be blocked by them. A shitload of traffic travels accross uunet, and they can block anyone from another network if they want to for spam etc. Which is what it looks like from this thread.
candidpublishinginc
08-23-2001, 07:25 PM
UUNET sucks....they are way too sensitive on this whole spam thing. Delete it or filter it.
toker
08-23-2001, 09:45 PM
They are not the only ones who will do this all ISPs and carriers confirm to these rules and they have every right in the world. Understand you dont pay their bandwidth bills to cover all the spam that goes thru them. What no one seems to understand is 1 spam no biggie but add up millions of spams a day from thousands of people. They have to pay the techs to block the ips they have to pay people to handle customre complaints and it all adds up.
You cheep asses who pay $1 a GIG to a 1 man host would not know what service and support costs. The tech who blocked the IP prob made about $10 just for the 5 mins it took him to do it. The tech who recieved a complaint prob made $5 just to handle that one issue. Now take that and multiply it 1k times or more a day plus bandwidth for every spam they recieve and see what you get.
Someone has to pay the bills and the recieving ISPs dont want to foot the bill nor should they have to. This is why spam has beccome such an issue but ou guys dont even think about the big picture.
candidpublishinginc
08-23-2001, 10:50 PM
Well I don't spam, nor will I ever spam.
However if the spammer is using their own mail server and their own T1, I really don't have a problem with it.
ProgGod
08-24-2001, 12:00 AM
Its not up to uunet to block spam either way, they should not be filtering ANY traffic of any sort.
next thing you know they will block game playing b/c they think its a waste of resources, next thing you know they will put on web rewriters blocking access to porn, b/c they morally object to it.
Really where will it stop?
Spam isn't a big issue, b/c UUNET shouldn't be answering any spam complaints for anyone that they don't directly sell pipe to. Thats the spammers upstream providers responsability.
UUNET defintely over steps their bounds, and I am sure eventually they will be brought down because of it.
I have even heard of UUNET blocking traffic to someones sites, because they have stopped using UUNET as their provider.
candidpublishinginc
08-24-2001, 02:00 AM
Proggod,
For once I agree with you.
Anthony Raff
08-24-2001, 11:57 AM
ProgGod, Candidpub, thank you for your posts. I agree UUNET should not be blocking access to anyone!
It was easy realizing this either ?? It took my 4 days of asking people for tracerts and bugging people on ICQ and my techs before we pin-pointed it at UUNET.
Then trying to speak with UUNET was basically a dead-end becuase we are not a UUNET customer and they won't even speak to you.. (is that bullshit or what)
anyway we managed to speak with someone half-way cool who comfirmed UUNET blocked access to space4porn.com but he didn't know why.
HE ASSUMED it was spamming but didn't know forsure.
My ticket is still open with them and it's not be answered yet.. I doubt it will.
Space4porn.com network is 100% operational, once I found out we were being blocked, We made some mods to the servers and within 24 hours we were back online worldwide.
It just amazes me, UUNET can do this, without sending any emails to me directly or even to my bandwidth provider ?
Who knows, you may be blocked by UUNET and not even know it.
regards,
Anthony
Raven
08-24-2001, 04:49 PM
We are currently with UUNET. We have had excellent service. We neither run free hosting nor do we have affiliate programs with them.
When our contract is up, we will switch to another host because of their views on spam. I figure, it's their playground, their rules. They host folks like Barnes and Noble and ESPN. Although they allow adult sites, they have some stringent rules.
We will move somewhere that deals with adult site.
toker
08-25-2001, 04:01 PM
Well UUNET aint the only one playing by these rules ask around and you will find most of the big guys are looking to bring up profits for the investors and compensate for all this DSL and lower badwidth prices other competetors are offering.
UUNet is very expensive for a reason they have no need to play cut throat games in in the online world. Also many providers dont want porn because they hate dealing with the spam and other complaints when the host does not take care of the issues.
I have discussed many of these issues with smaller ISPs who say they will soon be filtering lots of things as an added special service to clients (By Default). So when all the parents who decide this is good free sites will be getting much less underage visitors.
Would less uderage traffic and filtering be a good thing or a bad thing for conversions?
Same when it comes to spam ISPs and others who wont comply to the strict guidlines set forth by the bigger guys TOS will be blocked and it is their right to do so.
UUNet and anyone else has the right to do what they want on their end period and most have to beg for another chance once the decide to follow those guidelines.
Anthony Raff
08-26-2001, 10:51 AM
Toker,
" UUNet and anyone else has the right to do what they want on their end period and most have to beg for another chance once the decide to follow those guidelines. "
Somehow I don't think you would feel the same if you found out UUNET was blocking access to your site http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif
regards
Anthony
http://www.space4porn.com/wm1.html
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