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AdultPolice Wants you!!
Adultpolice.com is dedicated to the preservation of legal adult sites providing such services as bandwidth protection image theft and unauthorised image posting
of licenced content to newsgroups. Stopping webmasters that steal bandwidth by securing and maintaining websites for those with problems with hotlinks.
AdultPolice.com will also police the newsgroups for content photographers and licenced copyright content providers that wish to track down postings of their
material identifying offending posters preventing unauthorized postings and reporting infringements to the contracted owners. They can take action by forwarding to
the APIC and or legal action. Adultpolice.com will also advertise the ASACP and provide a comprehensive respectable web service and useful information on responsible adult webmaster activities.
AdultPolice.com wants you!! Do you have any skills that would be useful? Could the Adultpolice.com benifit from you?
Are you an expert in the field of protection? Want to help with hotlinking? Do you currently run or work with a similar site?
Want to maintain or promote a web service, program or software? Want to help run AdultPolice.com or Adultlock.com?
I am open to offers ideas and suggestions. Do you have a better idea?
Hit me Up on ICQ
I cant do everything alone.
135669571
Bucko
webmaster@adultlock.com
NakedPanda
11-18-2001, 11:43 PM
Ok thats cool and all but 2 points
you talk about policing newsgroups is that realy such a big issue as far as copyright infringment is concerned. Im not criticizing its a genuine question.
2) as a sugguestion if you are going to have dealings with copyright infringing webmasters please dont leave them with the impression they maybe recieving a visit from the police if this is not the case this just delegitimizes your complaint against their copyright infringing
Panda
Actually I am throwing around some ideas ?
Thank you for your contribution.
To answer you
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Ok thats cool and all but 2 points
you talk about policing newsgroups is that realy such a big issue as far as copyright infringment is concerned. Im not
criticizing its a genuine question.
Answer = No
It isnt a big concern for the internet however it is a concern for Content Providers . Content Providers however don't like webmasters breaking agreements by posting images that were licenced eg: for 3 sites and no permission was given to post the images.
It was just an idea to provide that as a service to content providers to track down images used improperly or posting against the
users agreement. The content providers would
just be given URL's.
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2) as a suggestion if you are going to have dealings with copyright infringing webmasters please dont leave them with the impression they maybe recieving a visit from the police if this is not the case this just delegitimizes your complaint against their copyright infringing
Answer = No
They offending webmaster or site will not know they have been found by the Adultpolice as they will be contacted by the owner of the pic.
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More Answers:
The AdultPolice.com will need ways to generate revenue in order be sustained.
AdultPolice may need to be a service based
site ideally we would like to be able to provided free sevices but without funding free is impossible.
Adult content providers could use services on a reward basis per email, pic or site.
The main concern we see each day is Content theft and bandwith theft. I see many webmasters concerned with hotlinking and some effected with huge bandwith bills.
Webmasters ask here weekly about this for help.
ADULTPOLICE WANTS YOU!!!!
DO YOU HAVE SKILLS IDEAS OR WANT TO HELP.
Hit me Up on ICQ
I cant do everything alone.
135669571
Bucko
webmaster@adultlock.com
What the heck is adultpolice?
erotictrance
11-27-2001, 09:48 AM
Well ... this might be a good idea ... but a couple of problems ...
Bay TSP already does a lot of what you're talking about, mostly tracking copyrighted material --- but they're expensive so maybe you could compete with them on price ...
I've also heard Bay TSP's tracking is not so great ...
Obviously people could use help on the hotlinking issue since there are now hacks that break htaccess protections (see current thread on hotlinking ) ...
But it's not clear to me what you could offer in that regard ...
In my opinion, adult webmasters (particularly smaller ones) need to learn how to protect their stuff BEFORE they get ripped off ...
A lot of the free porn that everybody bitches about comes from these small sites that have no piracy protection at all ...
The big guys do a great job of protecting their stuff ... but small webmasters do a horrible job and they're losing tens of thousands of dollars ... I've seen it first hand ...
On the other hand ... these smaller webmasters are so dumb sometimes ... I'm not sure they would see the value in protecting their stuff --- and whether there's a market there ...
My two cents for whatever it's worth ... LOL
Can you guys put an age limit on this board? :rolleyes:
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XP said:
What the heck is adultpolice?
ANSWER =
Adultpolice is anything you want it to be.
Adultpolice is nothing right now?
But i am open to hear what you think and adultpolice could do for the community???
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ERTOCTRANCE said:
Well ... this might be a good idea ... but a couple of problems ...
Bay TSP already does a lot of what you're talking about, mostly tracking copyrighted material --- but they're expensive so
maybe you could compete with them on price
ANSWER:
Maybe price is something we can look at even possibly personal monitoring of pics by recognition besides just file size and watermarks etc
... I've also heard Bay TSP's tracking is not so great ...Obviously people could use help on the hotlinking issue since there are now hacks that break htaccess protections (see current thread on hotlinking ) ...
ANSWER:
I have read about those HTACCESS breakers but they always existed there is always a harder more hardcore nerd out there
that is who we need onside..
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But it's not clear to me what you could offer in that regard ...
webmasters (particularly smaller ones) need to learn how to protect their stuff BEFORE they get ripped off ...
A lot of the free porn that everybody bitches about comes from these small sites that have no piracy protection at all ...
The big guys do a great job of protecting their stuff ... but small webmasters do a horrible job and they're losing tens of
thousands of dollars ... I've seen it first hand ...On the other hand ... these smaller webmasters are so dumb sometimes ... I'm not sure they would see the value in protecting
their stuff --- and whether there's a market there ...My two cents for whatever it's worth ... LOL
As far as service go well all is open.
There is no Adultpolice.com but there could be.. What do you want it to be???
Well there may not be a market there but
then again how hard is it to even get honest referals these days. Contributers such as your self are at least concerned enough to wonder what could one do or WE DO?????
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Kong said:
Can you guys put an age limit on this board?
ANSWER =
This board is reserved for adult webmasters working in the adult industry.
The age limit differs from state and country but generaly states and adult is 18 or 21 years of ages depending on country or state.
If you are under legal age in your country or state then you are forbidden to access the AWI boards. Kong the legal Age is 21 in the USA i would not recommend you contribute or commence any adult site work till you reach legal age requirements.
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BRING IT ON MORE CONTRIBUTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS COME ON WE WANT YOU...
WHAT CAN YOU OFFER.......
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Viking
11-28-2001, 09:46 AM
Well I'm thinking about starting AdultMilitary... NOT!!!
I say...
Let the police act as police
Let the adult webmasters act as webmasters
erotictrance
11-28-2001, 10:59 AM
Ok ... here's my wish list of what needs to be done, after monitoring a bunch of pirate boards, etc. Maybe there's a market somewhere in this:
First and foremost --- removing pirated material is completely worthless. After you shut them down, all they're gonna do is set up shop elsewhere. It's not going to have any impact whatsoever.
In fact, I've believe it's better to monitor pirate boards and figure out what they're doing --- so I can hopefully learn their tricks and better secure my own stuff.
Bottom Line: Copy Protection and Security is the key, and there needs to be some of kind of education campaign to get these webmasters, particularly the smaller ones, to lock down their stuff. It would also help reduce a lot of the "free" pirated porn that's hurting the business overall.
Maybe there should be a forum and/or newsletter that monitors pirate boards, newsgroups, etc. and reports various security breaches that are happening. Perhaps you could charge a small subscription fee for this service, which would contain info such as:
Site index hacks posted daily on pirate boards ---where the site contents are wide and the pirates have free access to everything on that webmaster's site. Usually, the webmaster is clueless that this is happening.
Beyond the usual password problems, these pirates are also frequently hacking into Globill, CCBill accounts, among others --- creating their own passwords --- and some of the webmasters I notified were also clueless about this ...
These are just a couple of examples of problems that I see every day ....
Quite frankly, the bigger site operators are far more knowledgeable, but they are reluctant to share their propriety security secrets, and understandably so.
However, it would be great if you could get them to contribute because they know this stuff better than anybody.
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VIKING said
Let the police act as police
Let the adult webmasters act as webmasters
ANSWER:
Educate the webmaster to do it the legal
way and avoid the police.
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EROTIC TRANCE said:
First and foremost removing pirated material is completely worthless. After you shut them down, all they're gonna do is set up shop elsewhere. It's not going to have any impact whatsoever.
ANSWER:
Well this maybe true they may set up elsewhere but it may be a deterant if they
are getting letters from the licenced content providers and stop using their content at least.
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As far as the rest of your ideas go they are great. Feel free to contribute more ideas and sugestions.
erotictrance
11-29-2001, 08:44 AM
It's NOT a deterrent. I've chased these guys down myself. If you're lucky, you might put them out of business for a day, but that's about it. Doesn't matter if Vivid or Playboy is threatening to sue them. They just set up a new shop where they can't be traced. I've seen it first hand, even with the big guys going after them.
One of the biggest problems I see is amateurs selling their own original content in the insecure MPEG format, which ultimately gets pirated all over the place. Even if less than one percent of the pirates who are downloading those free vids were paying customers, those sites would be making tens of thousands more than they are now. I've crunched the numbers and done some case studies, and it's big bucks.
But when you talk to the webmasters about protection, they don't want to spend the money on password protected streams, or digital rights management --- which would sucessfully protect their videos.
Granted, that kind of protection is expensive right now, although not compared with the money they're losing --- But the webmasters don't seem to grasp that they're losing a ton of money to piracy --- probably cause they don't pay enough attention and monitor it.
Instead, they'll go spend a fortune on advertising to try to make up for the customers they're losing cause their videos are freely available all over the net. Go figure.
A lot of these webmasters typically don't have a clue. As I mentioned in the above mentioned examples, many times they don't even know their site has been hacked until they get the bandwidth bills ... LOL.
But the big sites know --- they have all of this protection and more, although sometimes the pirates succeed in hacking the big guys as well.
Maybe there's a market in video protection if it became more affordable .... but I dunno. Some of these webmasters also feel that paying customers should be able to copy vids regardless of the piracy consequences, even though these customers ultimately rip them off by distributing their vids to the pirates.
But from what I've seen, it ultimatley hurts not only their business but everybody in the industry. Afterall, this is the main source for all the free porn on the pirate sites.
adultpolice sounds like a fetish site to me ;)
In fact, every content provider knows who steal their contents. Do you think tgpposters buy licence for freehosts? e.g. you bought pics from a content provider, and you can use these pics on 4 domains, so you give them your own domains or freehosts?
Anyway, I hope you do what you said.
With every reply we get more intensivly involved. All the points are valid ones.
EROTICTRANCE: You seem to know a lot it would be good to have you keep posting.
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YONG:
Adultpolice sounds like a fetish site to me. Not sure that would be a good idea.
GOOD POINT "your own domains or freehosts?"
i guess they all cheat there.
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Well Adultpolice could be anything.
If not just a comprehensive list of links
or discussion threads. Might try put that together see what happens after that.
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