Amsterdam Cash wants to hear your input...

[snow]

I just got off the phone with claudia and henry from Amsterdamcash. I can't say enough about how nice and good hearted these people are. All they are doing is looking for a system that works. I gave them some suggestions with the webmaster programs and told them to go to just straigh 35 dollar signups. There system is a little too hi tech and becomes very confusing. These guys are working so hard to make a program that works. They have an awesome site.
What site can you go to that has a 1800 number so you can call talk to them about anything you want. Most sites wouldnt even dream of doing that. There all ears guys.

Give them some ideas and suggestions to what would make it a better program.

They are willing to hear ideas from all angles. They feel that your the most important input. They are working now to change the program. Dan,Nick and all the other guys who use them, contact them talk to them.

They are willing to work with us and offcourse want us to be happy.

I will continue to use them and work with them.
Snow

[Ride]

The first step they should take is pay every webmaster what they were told (35.00 per sign up) Until that I doubt many people will send them traffic. I sure as hell won't.

Ride

[Dan S]

Damn Ride was faster http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

[Coke]

That'd be a good start.

[Juggler]

Snow are you taking the piss do you really expect webmasters to say well shit I may have lost a shit load of money this month but hell they have a 1800 # and Snow is recommending them.

Well I have seen some piss taking but you really are a winner, They make an offer THEY can not convert then send spammers out who give their word that this is the best program out there when a lot of webmasters where worried about what to do with their exit.

Snow you really are a piss taker what are you hoping for that a few will stay another month so you can squeeze a few more $$$ out for referral fees.

My heart goes out to everyone who listen to Snow in the first place and lost money because of it but Snow you get no respect from me.

[baller]

Well said, juggler..

you always speak your mind and don't bullshit the bullshitter....

[kingping]

I agree, put yourself in the position of losing hundreds if not thousands of dollars on a sponsor.. they would have never used them if they new this would happen and now you want to call in and help them with their program? Your head must be empty my friend..

[Michael_D]

Oh you want a suggestion eh? Well I suggest they pay every webmaster using their program what they are owed!

I hope you spread the word to your friends not to use these pig fuckers.

[snow]

Call them and give them input. Juggler I didnt want to see anyone get hurt dude. Thats the last thing i want to see is my friends get screwed. They have a 1800 number call them guys.

Juggler i guess you would never reccommend sponsors cause you dont have the balls to put yourself in that position. I'm sure you have been fucked for thousands just like everyone else. LIVE AND LEARN. I'f they owe you money and you werent cheating i dont see a problem.
http://www.interclimax.com
1800-366-1963

Claudia will talk to you No problem..

[Juggler]

Get it right Snow I recommend sponsors all the time but what I do not do is do it to try to get referral $$$$. I have never and I will never spam a sponsors or anything else. Do not try to make out you care this happened because of one reason you being a greedy little fucker, the only post you should be making is one to say sorry to all the webmasters who signed up because of you spamming and have now been screwed and you should be REALLY sorry to the webmasters who where using AC before YOUR spam who have lost a lot of money because of it, but no you want to keep your referral $$$ so you are still plugging a company who have fucked a lot of webmasters.

As far as me being fucked over for thousands well get real I never sign up for a sponsor or anything else that has little greedy spammers working for them. I never lost a penny but I am still pissed with you because a lot of good webmasters did lose $$$ because of your greedy little ways and you are still pushing them and you did not even bother to say SORRY to the webmasters who got screwed because of YOU.

[Mikey]

Show me the money!

[richard]

Like i said on that Kucey post, i hate people who promote stuff because they are being paid for it, when they make out it is not because they are getting paid but because the people are top notch.

It is what Killah does on his site, people pay him to write reviews. Don't see ucj on his site? Thats because Tim i think has similar feelings - If a program is good, reccomend it, but without all your referal shit.

I tell you something, if someone posted about a sponsor purely because they were helping others, i would ask them for their referal ID myself and go underneath them, just because they were being honest.
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There is no way to get their rep back without paying off their debts...

Richard.

[run]

just one comment on killah:
i didnt pay him for posting a page about my script, thank you

[Coke]

Why should I call them to get the money they owe me? Is this the new way to get the money from sponsors? Additionally a 800-number doesn't help me anything, I'd need to pay the international rates anyway so I'm for sure NOT going to give them a call.
It's their responsibility to pay all webmasters what they are owed without them needing to call them/email/visit them first. If they are so nice people they ought to come to this board and tell everyone that they won't pay the webmasters, but they can give them a call on their 800-number at anytime.
The perfect sponsor - Amsterdamcash
'We don't pay webmasters what they are owed but hey, we got a 1-800 number!!!'

[richard]

run, did you give him a copy of Red&Blue?

[Reed]

# They have a 1800 number call them guys.
# 1800-366-1963

BTW: While you're on the free 800 number...

Watch the expressions on their faces as they screw you out of 75% of your earnings.

Claudia's live Screw_the_Webmasters_Cam: http://www.interclimax.com/newsflash.html http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Avatar]

Good post Coke. Good sponsors would actually inform people of changes in their TOS. They have my mail why don't they use it? They could at least mail me, that they won't pay me what they owe me. Instead of just doing nothing in the hope I won't find out... Daaa! Do they think we're stupit?

Well they're now on my blacklist..

[magnatique]

Richard, I absolutely agree with you on the refferal part..

I mean, when I see some people post
"check out this newsponsor" "http://www.pissoff.com/ref.cgi?12848"
well, first of all, I usually don,t sign up the program since everyone and their dog will signup there..
IF, I do want to signup, I then do not go through the refferal code..

On the other hand, if someone would say he found something cool, and has no refferal, I MIGHT ask him his refferal..

but most of the time I do sign under someone is when I personnaly have a chat with the guy, and he says he is doing well with something... then I ask him. oh really, gimme yer refferal, I'll sign up under you my friend...

and I guess same thing happenned to me, shap asked me for a refferal yesterday, but unfortunately there wasn't any =D DAMN! could of doubled my earnings with that http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

mag

[Coke]

Don't damn Snow because Amsterdamcash hasn't paid you. He's not responsible for what they're doing because he told you about them. It's alone their bad business practices which is causing this malheur.

[Killah]

Yo Richard...

It's funny to see me again as the dumbass today on the board...
I donno if I can respond to the stuff, because I have to talk about a site that I run and I promised to never mention it again here. So I'll leave the URL away...
But let me correct something here:
"Don't see ucj on his site?" Take a look at the scripts..
UCJ 1.3... NO Payment... And I asked Tim also for a review of UCJ IV. If he doesn't want it, that's his decision.
Red&Blue: No payment... Is there a review ?
I collect information there and I have listed every script that wanted to be listed there.
Blind-IO is the only script that I got paid for. But you will agree that it's one of the best arround, so I stand behind that promotion.
So if somebody has a script that he is selling, send me screenshots and infos and you are listed, very simple.

Just hit me at the@killah.com

Cheers, Killah

[playa]

what amsterdam did reminds me of what cybererotica did except they paid everyone before setting the new rules....remember the time when everyone was promoting cybererotica thru there free memberships program...i am sure that cybererotica had same rebill percentage..

thank goodness they didn't change the rule when it was time to cut checks http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
they gave advance warning bout the free sign ups being over...thats what amsterdam should of done...

[Claudia]

Hi Everybody,

I am Claudia part-owner of InterClimax and AMSTERDAMCASH.

Yes, I do apologize for the LATE payment!
Yes, I did put rules in AMSTERDAMCASH.

why???? Because, it has to be a win-win situation and, I want to stay in business.

WEBMASTERS: I think if you are a good webmaster you will not have any problem with AMSTERDAMCASH!!!

The terms are very clear and, you can make good money with it!

I have been signing some BIG cheques!!!

If you have any questions or you want to scream at me CALL: 1800-366-1963 OR
+31-20-435-00-22 OR icq:78146378

BTW: You can hate me for setting rules, or you can love me for my big-$$$-cheques IF you send me good traffic!..

InterClimax exists for 4 years now and has a good reputation and AMSTERDAMCASH will prove the same!

I am 100% behind AMSTERDAMCASH and, you will find out I am not going anywhere!!!

BTW: I am going to New Orleans, if you want to meet me face to face..After that I organise a webmaster event in Amsterdam...with 2 other big companies.you are invited!

I am revieuwing AMSTERDAMCASH and, you know what??? It's getting better for the GOOD traffic - WebMasters.

Feel free to contact me for anything.. http://www.interclimax.com
come see me live

Anyway,...I want to thank all the webmasters who shown their support to AMSTERDAMCASH!!
Claudia from InterClimax & AmsterdamCash

[Mikey]

WEBMASTERS: I think if you are a good webmaster you will not have any problem with AMSTERDAMCASH!!!


Alot of good webmasters already have problems with Amsterdamcash. So what are you trying to say then?

[STEVEN]

I think Claudia is implying that your traffic sucks. Obviosly, AmsterdamCash sites are the greatest on Earth, and it's your fault you can't convert them. I think this is a fantastic public relations tactic.

Hmm... maybe you should continue to post, letting everyone know how much money you are raking in, how great it is to write big, FAT, checks to "GOOD" webmasters, and how sorry you are that everyone here is a "bad" webmaster.

What's next? Are you going to hire some goons to cut the hands of "Bad" webmasters, and then have them pour salt on the wounds?

[NOT EVEN]

hahaha

This is getting too funny.

Don't worry guys. It's all your fault because your traffic isn't good enough. (It couldn't possibbly be a problem with thier site that makes people chargeback. Remember it's not them making $35 claims that they can't actually pay. It's not free trials that aren't really free that causes chargebacks. It couldn't be that there site isn't worth what they charge. It's your fault for sending substandard sales.)

Besides don't worry. If there is any problem Claudia will just take it out of your checks. (You know THEY aren't gonna lose money, much easier to pawn it off on the webmasters and give yourself a raise instead)

Just call them if you want your stats. Unlike other programs they are worried about balancing so you can't see your stats. (Hang on for a minute while I figure out how many to shave off I mean while I check your account.) (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Never heard this one before. Just don't lose your balance or you might bend over and get amsterdams cock right up your ass) Wait till next month till your are accused of Spangling or maybe Trangranging. (I don't know just tell em something Claudia. I have to pay off the new yaught I bought and I if I don't make 100 grand this month I don't know what I'll do.)

The lesson is. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. There are shady types out there that will do anything to make a buck. Always use more than one sponser and expect to get screwed now and then buy some of them.

Don't go by what people say either. Go by what they do. If they don't pay you then try someone else. Don't be a sucka.

NE

[STEVEN]

By the way, I have to disagree with everyone ripping on Snow. Yeah, he got excited about Amsterdam Cash, and shit, it looked good, didn't it? Snow has dropped some nice info here, I don't think he should get his ass kicked because AmCash needs 50% conversion from trial to full member before you get paid.

[Mikey]

Is it the webmasters that sucks or the traffic? But wait a minute, don't we all trade traffic with each other. So it must be the webmasters 'cause we all have the same traffic, right?. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

Too bad we can't blacklist sponsors the way we do cheaters. But then what's the diff? Traffic=Money.

[Ride]

Good post but why hide behind an anonymous username. We all know Amsterdamn Cash sucks, so just state it with your real username. Good night everyone!

Ride

[snow]

Well Steven thank you for the support, But i would really like to see all my buddies happy again.

I'm sorry if i missguided you man. I really do believe we can solve this whole mess. These people are willing. Again I'm sorry, but again I really thought I can earn repsect by helping others. After all people like ride and even juggler have helped me in the past.I NEVER forget who has helped me in the past. I know juggler is upset,but what am i gonna do man. DIDN'T i have the balls to stick up for all of you with KEELE-BAY.

WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK CLOSED HIM DOWN.

Did I get a thank you for that. No one thinks about the good you do ,but man a little fuck up and people are all over you for it.
FUCK THAT NOISE.Do you realize my commission is 10 percent. Thats means I make 3.50 cents for every sign up BIG FUCKEN DEAL thats peanuts man.
Oh well I am through with spamming. If i find a good sponsor ITS NO ONES BUSINESS NOW.


As for the dialer everyone seems to getting paid in full and on time. I think tons of people are happy with that. But wait, as soon as there is a problem it's snows fault. So i am done with sharing sponsors. Lesson learned.
I love all you bastards. You know who you are.

SNOW
PS seriously work with claudia man shes on a mission to solve all this crap.

[Mikey]

Ride - this is my real username http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

I agree with you it is up to Amsterdamcash to convert the free trial to a membership, not us.

[Reed]

Dear Claudia,

We all understand your need to operate a profitable business model. Unfortunately the way this was handled is now damaging your companies reputation and entire webmaster base. Unless you mail these webmasters the agreed amounts in full... "Your company" will probably sink faster then the Titanic.

Mail the webmasters their money then deduct future chargebacks, in real time if necessary. Change your rules, business model, payout structure. Change whatever is necessary to be profitable but always pay the webmasters what you owe them and not a penny less. Pay them first, then change the rules but not before notifying everyone of them "first". I've seen many sponsors go down. I've seen many take a big hit "now" for "future" profits. This ended up the smartest move they ever made. Example: "Ron Levi of Cybererotica" a Class act.


Long term profitability should be your goal. Take the loss then work your ass off at getting profitability again. Your company has a long term multimillion dollar per year profit potential. Don't throw that away by shorting these webmasters for $100,000. Word of mouth will kill you faster then you started. I run several webmaster resource centers. You don't want to be on my bad sponsor list.

Good Luck, I hope you and your webmasters make millions...

Sincerely, Reed

[Juggler]

Snow you say your sorry then you go on to say "PS seriously work with claudia man shes on a mission to solve all this crap"

It should not be up to the webmasters to sort this out if Claudia wants to sort it out then it is easy start writing checks

and as far as 10% being peanuts well I am sure there are a few webmaster that would like to get your peanuts.

You said to me on ICQ "You never know who pays" Well then do not be greedy and post you referal code all over a board with high traffic webmasters and when they screw webmasters why would you still keep pushing them saying what good people they are.

Everyone here knows that if someone cheats you if you give them a second chance they will cheat you again but you are saying that webmasters should work with them because they are great people and really want to sort it out Yeah right

[richard]

Reed: spot on.

If i were in the sponsor biz, i would value my long term relationshjip adn long term profits mroe than screwing over a fw webmasters.

(*Rich the Drunk returns*)

[magnatique]

haha way to go rich http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif