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elron
11-21-2001, 07:35 PM
before you people start to have your wet dreams about your 400k cj sites again , and meantime spit again at your worthless not making money tgp's . let me give you some points about 'turning the wheel back' .

Cj's were making money 2 years ago with the following ways :

1 per click sponsors
2 exit brokers

And there were few attempts to generate signups with this traffic , which in nice words - were a joke .

Now lets look at 1 , 2 .
Per click sponsors paid us untill they figured out that they have to pay much more then what they earn from our traffic . and here are few ones :

babylon-x.com - terminated 90% of their affiliates account with the reason of low converted traffic .
nex-cash.com - didn't terminate accounts , but came up with original idea of counting only english traffic , which leaded to a result of counting less then 30% , and accually lost most of their webmasters .
there are dozen of others which their story has the same end at those 2 above .

Exit brokers .

Those ones crashed like the babylon tower one after another .
Started with the big money rip off from jack @ bimbocash that lost his contract with CE , and decided to keep all the money to himself , leaving 100's of webmasters without payment , then continued with SYE that paid nice cash to a programmer for his hard working for his 90% shaving system .
Same programmer bought his new house for making the same 90% shave program to exitmoney.com .
There was a nice attempt that accually generated sales with this crappy Cj traffic from all the 'free memberships' programs aka join4free , pink4free .. etc . But all of them woke up one day with over zillion of email adresses that worthed nothing but few cents , and lots of threats to remove them from the spam list .

So suddently everyone came up with new idea to make the CJ's more confortable for the horney surfers , and the results were CJ2 , TGP2 .. as NickD said instead of consoles , they added some incest , cp links to generate more out clicks to his trades with hope to have more exit to his dialer sponsor .
All of you who dream about having more traffic by turning back to the CJ empire again , should take a cold shower and think abit - you really had 200k surfers at your CJ's ?? , na your sites were just another
opened console among 30 others at the surfers pc . that's the reason for all of you to scratch your heads 30 times a day without finding the reason of how the hell you have over 300 great porn links at your sites , and accually you have less then 70% producity .

For those who didn't understand the bottom line from everything i have explained here , i will brief it shorty - The only way to make money these days are accually to generate sales . by partership programs , dialers , per signup programs .
All of the naive per click sponsors or exit brokers are gone .
Having your site opened once again as a console and give you fake feeling of more traffic wont raise your income , but only raise the income for your host with his bandwidth bills .

I own of the biggest cj2 site - wetvirgin.net which gets over 200k uniques according to UCJ count . This site is making about 500$ daily from dialer sales . sounds unbelievable if i will remember my 30k cj 2 years ago that was making the same cash from exit sponsors + per click sponsors . That's what explains my point the best .

Good luck

Elron .

ragnar
11-21-2001, 07:48 PM
good point about babylon-x i can still remember it "your traffic doesn't make enough signups" yeah right you should add terms for that 1.5 year ago haha

jack/bimbocash paid me always i guess before that crash with Cyber Erotica, anyaway it was one of the programs that made me big money for a few months

i tried to convert my cj celeb sites to cj2 site but i didn't work for me, how much i did ? maybe $20 day with a 15k cj2 site

in my eyes dialers should be great if we had them 2 years ago we should make tons of money with our cj's, fuck freeloaders give them an pop-up hell thats the real way to make money a lot of people call this something similar to cheating but this is the way to make the big money, i don't give a fuck about others as long as i make enough money

be smart people find your own ideas

elron
11-21-2001, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by ragnar:
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jack/bimbocash paid me always i guess before that crash with Cyber Erotica, anyaway it was one of the programs that made me big money for a few months

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Everyone made big money , except Cyber Erotica untill they decided to stop donating cash for cj owners and the end is known .

ragnar
11-21-2001, 08:04 PM
Cyber Erotica is still donating me money although only 1/15 of 2 years ago :(

toker
11-21-2001, 09:49 PM
Finally a man who knows the true color of darkness and can see the light at the other end of that long tunnel speaks. Now all you lets jerk surfers again and make tons of money dreamers can read and weap a bit more of the dream that will never come to life.

TGP lives on another generation and CJs get swept under the carpet but shall never be forgotten!

BTW thanks for all the 1 Star Votes assholes you make me feel so special for the fact you actually took the time to give a shit about my rating. :)

Thor
11-21-2001, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by elron:
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I own of the biggest cj2 site - wetvirgin.net which gets over 200k uniques according to UCJ count . This site is making about 500$ daily from dialer sales . sounds unbelievable if i will remember my 30k cj 2 years ago that was making the same cash from exit sponsors + per click sponsors . That's what explains my point the best .

Good luck

Elron .</STRONG>

that site isnt a cj2 site, it has a autodownload of a dialer on exit, so it must be a cj site :D

playa
11-21-2001, 10:28 PM
i don't know if you guys noticed but more so called tgp's are nothing but mere clean CJ with out any consoles

elron
11-21-2001, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by toker:
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BTW thanks for all the 1 Star Votes assholes you make me feel so special for the fact you actually took the time to give a shit about my rating. :)</STRONG>


Why not exposing them here ?
Here are all of the webmasters who just love me and rated me with 1 star :

Lensman (lol couldn't expect else after i exposed his rip off mechanism)
Groovy
Snow (this guy not only didn't pay me , but also fucked up my rating , nice job dude)
sonicpuke
bad_dog
exitmoney
Vegemite and Cheese
qualitythumbs

I love you too sweeties ...

Cyber-Fantasy
11-21-2001, 11:14 PM
if a tgp does not shave traffic from its gallery links

then i say its a tgp

if it shaves 30% or whatever off its gallery links for traffic trades

its a traffic trade site (I.e. Clean CJ2)


not many tgp's out there anymore

manga
11-22-2001, 02:00 AM
I think you need to look at the bigger picture. First, you don't have to use a per click sponsor or an exit broker on a cj. I know a lot of guys were doing that before, but there were also a lot of guys who were making good money promoting regular recurring sponsors off their cjs. Either way, a cj is another source of traffic and revenue. The big picture, as I see it, is that if a solid cj movement started again it would benefit not only the cj webmasters, but also everyone else. The reason is that if the cjs could get a decent percentage of the porn traffic and jerk around enough surfers, finding free porn wouldn't be as easy as it is now. That would improve conversions for gallery builders, free site builders, tgps, and everybody else. The surfer would be more inclined to sign up because he would not know when he would find free porn again. A surfer should feel lucky when he finds free porn, right now he takes it for granted.

MayorX
11-22-2001, 02:20 AM
Hey let's Face the facts here! Surfers are 300X smarter now and their is 300X more free TGP sites out their so you do the math? seems like all you TGP guys can get is the Dialer mins if not for that you would just plain quit. i hate dialers and TGPS! Now in the OLD GOODIE days CJ was great! and paide FUCKING WELL! now it is all crap! profit is at is't worst. and CJ sites are like dinasores.. that is why Smitty is posting to try to bring them back and it is a good idea but a new concept is needed..in short NUKE THE TGPS would be good for starters...as i did a surfers poll.. 89% of them said they SHOT THEIR LOAD FOR FREE FROM TGPS SITES and had no interest in joining a pay site...

Just passing on what is current in todays market. now if you have a TGP with 5k per day search traffic you may do REAL WELL!

but most cases NOT!!!!!///////||||||\\\\\\\
:p

shane
11-22-2001, 03:57 AM
hey elron, how did you find what people vote?

XP
11-22-2001, 04:44 AM
Elron,
I see some underage pics (Russian Girls) on wetvirgin.net

They are 15-16 Yo. I remember I saw this pix on a CP site years ago (hmm Black cat or something like this name)

I see how you get 80K CJ traffic now

elron
11-22-2001, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by shane:
<STRONG>hey elron, how did you find what people vote?</STRONG>
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=my_rating_list


As for you XP those pictures are from web-legal.com . ask for an access to view sets with samples enabled , use their search and type 'ukraine teen' , you will find those girls there .

Unknown
11-22-2001, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by elron:
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http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=my_rating_list


As for you XP those pictures are from web-legal.com . ask for an access to view sets with samples enabled , use their search and type 'ukraine teen' , you will find those girls there .</STRONG>

lol Elron, http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=my_rating_list is a list of what YOU have rated OTHERS, not what THEY have rated YOU. See?

toker
11-22-2001, 09:08 AM
Yea i would like to know how to find out who voted me also so i can give them the same treatment. Then again i could give a shit as i know none of them put money in my pocket so their oppinions are worthless.

We all knew they would pull that shit once ratings was enabled and you said 1 negitive thing about anyone. To fuckin its useless because i dont live my life to the expectations of others. ;)