ucj sending raw hits

[dana]

here's a test I made :

try clicking any link ( blind link, not gallery )
at a UCJ script
click it a few times like a happy surfer,
see how the script openns the same site again and again...
many times when I surf for porn, I click the hell out of TGP's openning 10 browsers of porn
this way of surfing when it hits the UCJ
actually makes our trades slow,
since it sending raw hits to our trade partners.

a surfer who clicks my site openns the same trade over and over , so my traffic looks unproductive, and shitty,
while it is really a bug in UCJ.

just go to any ucj site find your self a blind link and hit it 10 times, see what I'm talking about for a better understanding of traffic trading

cheers
Dana

[xApster]

Its not a bug.. thats how UCJ works thats why you need to learn how to master your outgoing list http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[richard]

Chris, i'm a UCJ newbie, explain to me what i should be doing to master my outgoing list.

[Marina]

xApster,
Ditto what Richard said.... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif I'd like to know also!


Marina

[Rich]

Just remember that it's never called a bug, just "An unforseen feature"...

On the serious side, I'd like to know that as well xap, isn't one of the main points of a script that trades uniques to....well...trade uniques? If you get sent to the same site more than once it becomes a raw hit..or am I just fucked in the head?

[Due]

xApster>
I would like to know that as well http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
The only thing I've seen so far with my outgoing list is 1: if I remove sites so there is less sites in my outgoing list I drop in traffic. 2: If I add more sites there is more sites in my outgoing list I drop in traffic.

[dana]

Xap,
I would also like to know how to master my ougtgoing settings http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[run]

Hmm... I wouldn't call myself an UCJ user after all, but hey, I would like a piece of xApster's experience here http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[xApster]

Well I never really said I had mastered it I just said you need to know how to master it http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

On my sites i have 8 outgoing spots and it seems to work great for me ....

If UCJ sent out uniques life would be a lot better http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[playa]

this is the problem i am getting from my other trading partners that don't use UCJ..

according to the script i am trading good,,,but with my partners i am well behind...it can get frustating but i just have to send out more to the bigger trades..sometimes 2 times more just to make the trade really even

[Marina]

My outgoing sounds like Due's.... I can't seem to find a happy medium..... and why do I always seem to get stuck at 50k even why I get more trades.......ugh.

[Doctor Dre]

Tim will UCJ 5 have the featuer of sending uniques hits ?

[DemonWolfe]

Heya Marina,

Hows things? Tell Steve I say Hi... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif


I am with you on hits... I have DemonWolfe at 86,000 right now... funny how if one trade sends in a bunch more and shoots to the top, the over traffic stays at 86,000... Hell, my toplist is a game of musical chairs... no one stays in #1 for long, and no matter what, I don't go up or down very much (except Sundays... about 80,000 on Sunday)...

You know, I was looking at UCJ today and realized I never really fully understood the cookie feature? Anyone care to explain how exactly the cookie counts work?

Another thing that confuses me is that I have over 950 "favicon" attempts everyday (documents not found on Demonwolfe.com server stats) which means almost 1,000 bookmarks everyday... why the hell am I not growing close to 30,000 each month? Shouldn't I be growing at least 15,000 a month? Thats only half of my bookmarks?

[Robert]

My script sends out uniques (the only one on the internet :o)! which means I send quality traffic ...
but if I want to run a big trade with ucj I have to send 2 times more uniques than I get, because UCJ sends out raws and so in ucj the stats is equal. But mine shows me I send 2 time more uniques ...

vote for uniques in UCJ V ...

[Due]

Robert>
UCJ send out RAW. but not THAT raw http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
I have a trade between 2 of my own sites, websexporn.com and tgp4all.com
Aprox 2K trade so nothing big. But the it is aprox 86% unique tracked on IP's
So I would say it is probably around 90-92% true uniques http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
But offcourse as the trade grow the unique % will drop. Like with any other scripts.
There is no such thing as a script that send out true uniques. But you can always make a script that never send the same person to the same trade 2 times http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
DemonWolfe>
I think that your out clicks with "no refferer" are people that hit your page that had the UCJ counter code, but did not come from a trade or could not be tracked. Your out with nocookie is people that do not have cookie support in their browsers or entered your site without accessing your UCJ counter code (IE if you use frames) If that was what you meant?

[dana]

UCJ is probably the best trading script out there. it is proven by every counter toplist.
I don't want my ost pto sound like I'm bitching about the UCJ, because I love those blue tables, and thanks to that script lesbianna grew from 5k to 50k in a few weeks.
ALl I'm saying is that there should be a feature added where the same surfer can not open the same trades twice. there is allways a mechanism where surfer can not open referrer trade, so there is onl that small feature that a user must open all trades partners before he opens the same treade twice! and thats it - this script become perfect!

cheers to all
Dana

[xApster]

I belive tim is adding uniuqe outgoign in the next version... or at least I hope so http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Marina]

Hi DemonWolfe!

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif I know I get so crazed over this.... But yep same thing... I can get a trade to 7-10k and really don't notice a big difference from when it was 5-7k... odd. As for the musical chairs with top spots... UGH! Someone can be doing so well.... then the next second... gone. And the sites that are like a yo-yo.... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif I don't know I need to stop concentrating on the trades under 1k and just concentrate on the bigger ones....

Do you notice when you get to a certain amount on your tgp that you get stuck? I'm totally baffled by this....


and I'll tell my baby that you said Hi! http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif He is very preoccupied with his new hobby.... Paintball!


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[DemonWolfe]

Due,

I am wondering what the cookie is used for? If UCJ sets a cookie in the surfers browser, what does it do? I thought that it kept the surfer from going out to the same trade twice (by updating the cookie) but I know now that is not the case.

Ah... yeah, I do have a framed page, so that could be why my nocookie counts are so high. It has 0 incoming, 0 outgoing, but 50,000 clicks.

I'm guessing the cookie tracks each out click to credit the correct site who sent the surfer.


Marina,

I think Steve is onto something with paintball... its a fun activity to get your ass away from the computer. And hell, its even healthy exercise, which is not something I get much of these days. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

I hear you on the smaller trades... I now have 75 or so "active" trades, and have a top100 list thats full... I can't believe the demands some sites try to make on me for a 200 hit a day trade... wow...

I am not sure what the advantage is of 1 10K trade over 5 2K trades, except for the time it takes to check out the 5 trades....

[Cam]

Demonwolfe,

Productivity tracking, I'm guessing... Not sure though...

[DemonWolfe]

I am noticing that only about 1/3 surfers seem to have cookies enabled (a number much lower than I would have guessed). This really is freaky because CCBILL tracks sales by cookie! One could then assume that you only get credit from 2/3 of the traffic and sales you send... owch...


On a brighter note, have you guys seen X-3's newest traffic script?
http://www.x3scripts.com/resellers/ps/count.cgi?advertid=admin&website=1

Damn impressive screenshots...

Heres a cut and paste:
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Raw AND Unique counting for all IN and OUT traffic.
Intelligent Surfer-Site cycling -Don't send the same surfer to the same site twice.
Productivity TRACKING!!! View trade productivity for each trade.
Webmaster Info Database
Surfer country tracking for each trade. (see who sends you what type of traffic).
Historical Reporting
5 different ways to link to sites!!!
Mulitiple Group Based Trade Rotations
Special Rotating CGI for owed hits
Permanent Link Trade Support
Hard URL Link Support (Send hits to sites that don't send to you).
Content URL with blind percent. (Links to gallerys X percent goes to trades)
Detailed graphs for global system and individual traders.
Multiple template and output files.
Detailed In/out stats for webmasters
Country and user agent tracking by webmaster.
Toplist and hits owed based on 24 hour period of time.
SSI In Counter, Java Script or log listenter implementation.
Multiple anti cheating/detection algorithims.
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The list is much longer than that, but I figured if anyone really cares they can go there and read it for themself...

Im going to have it installed on a brand new TGP that I plan to open this upcoming week. Im excited to have a new toy! http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[DemonWolfe]

ha ha ha...

The link is suppose to be:
http://www.x3scripts.com/resellers/ps/count.cgi?advertid=demonwolfe&website=1

Gee... I am a dumbass... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

[SpyCam]

Well, in case nobody knows: RB2 is already using almost all features you list there (i could be wrong because i just started to read them and I hit "reply" button http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif )

RB2 tracks unique and raw in/out traffic + it tracks unique/raw hits for every single trade. And it also has one more feature the new X-3 won't have: RB2 is able to set raw>raw, raw>unique, unique>raw and unique>unique types of trades !

I run RB2 script on my sites and i'm able to trade uniques or raws...

Judge yourself http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
SpyCam

[Ace]

So if I understand correctly I should trade raw --> raw with ucj sites? I'm running RB2.