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Will it be cheating to send RAW direct to the out script and keep the UNIQUE on my own site?
IE:
I send 1 surfer to site A
Site A send that surfer to site B
Site B send that surfer to me
Will it be cheating if I send that visitor direct to my outscript without he will ever see my site again? (and wasting my bandwith)
Give me some comments :-)
/Due
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CyberDruid
04-12-2000, 10:37 AM
I would say: Yes. It takes time when the surfer goes to ur script and then to mine. The surfer becomes angry and closes the browser.
It is like slowing down the server. The surfer needs some secs more to come to ur page, so wont click one blindlink on your site.
I would not like to trade with persons doing that. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif
Greetz,
CyberDruid
CyberDruid
04-12-2000, 10:39 AM
Damn... i wanted this cool purple smily. ;(
CyberDruid
04-12-2000, 10:41 AM
...
Tim, can u add the purple smily the the smily list? I really love it.
http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
richard
04-12-2000, 11:37 AM
Its a good point.
if you take a look at your stats, no-one is getting 100% unique visitors to their sites.
If a surfer was screwed by your site, when he sees it agin, he is not going to click on it...
...but if he saw a different page?
Using a javascript redirect i was told would be too slow (compared to having the script do it..right/wrong?). But certainly using cookies would be the best idea.
Dan - is this included in the latest update to Blindio, as i saw that p4all used something similar.
Richard.
Anth0ny
04-12-2000, 11:41 AM
Professor Phun wrote me a quick CGI that doesn't take much system resource that puts a cookie on the surfer's computer so that if he comes back again he gets redirected.
Email me if you want a copy of it anthony@netpond.com
CyberDruid
04-12-2000, 02:01 PM
Anthony, that sounds really good.
I would really like to know how fast this CGI works.
If it's as fast as u tell - umm - i would say that would be a great solution to the problem Due raised.
CyberDruid
ateen@gmx.net
If I would put my Domain in my sig, u would laugh about me. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif
Anth0ny
04-12-2000, 02:39 PM
This is the code, it's really small and fast. Put it in a word editor, save it as redir.cgi
Upload it, chmod 755. Then call it as a console to open, when the surfer comes the first site will pop up, a cookie will be placed. Next time they come, they will read the cookie and redirected.
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#!/usr/bin/perl
@out = ( 'http://www.yourdomain.com/firstpage.html',
'http://www.yourdomain.com/secondpage.html' );
$m=(@out)-1;($t,$w)=split(/where=/,$ENV{'HTTP_COOKIE'});
if ($w < $m) { $w++; } else { $w = "0"; }
print "Set-Cookie: where=$w; expires=Tue, 01-Jan-2010 00:00:00 GMT;\n";
print "Location: $out[$w]\n\n";
exit;
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Cheers!
CyberDruid
04-12-2000, 02:48 PM
Thanx a lot! If I would have ur adress I would send u a good german beer. (I think its good. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif)
I really begin to LOVE this board!
Anth0ny
04-12-2000, 02:52 PM
Send all beer to Netpond Headquarters!
Make sure it says care of Anthony or Prophet_8 will drink it all!!!
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Cheers!
donger
04-12-2000, 03:07 PM
the only problem is, sending directly through a cgi will leave the HTTP_REFERER set to whereever the surfer came from instead of your site, so any sites that track hits this way won't count those surfers. This variable only gets set if an actual page loads from your site into the user's browser.
ttyl
donger
CyberDruid
04-12-2000, 03:14 PM
lol
so tell me the adress of the netpond hq. I treid to find out that adress via Whois, but i did not found the right adress, i think.
geez, now I have to hiccups. Too much beer.
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Anth0ny
04-12-2000, 03:18 PM
True Donger,
However... This is not for the main site, it is for a console that opens up over it.
So... In this setup:
Main page opens console <<== this has console is actually the CGI that opens up which one depending on the cookie.
With UCJ the main page is the one that counts the referrer as well as sets a cookie.
So, with my current setup, it affects nothing.
Regards
Rich,
yes it is included in the new version of Bio, and it has an advantage over the Perl redirect script.
If your SexTracker counter is on the rotating page, a part of your hits won't be tracked because you can specify only 1 URL in the page ranks.
When the script is displaying the rotating pages (without a redirect), ST still think it's the same webpage and will track all your hits.
Regards
Dan
PORNFROG
04-14-2000, 02:39 AM
Hi, what will happen if all script sites used this feature, would a surfer who had visited all sites, and had cookies from them, start being redirected into infinity?
where will that surfer end?
pornfrog
richard
04-14-2000, 03:39 AM
Thats quite an interesting point.
Lets not redirect straight to the script, but have loads of different popups/mainpages to use instead.
Due: looking at it again i would say a redirect to the script is cheating, though not quote on the same level as img srcers.
Richard.
I was just wondering if anyone is using this redir.cgi right now, and how it works in "real jerking"?
I would like to set it up so i have 2 different mainpages, but im not sure how.
demoman
05-29-2000, 09:48 AM
;(
demoman
05-29-2000, 09:49 AM
http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/eek.gif this is a cool one
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