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Joey[JR]
10-20-2001, 10:36 AM
can anyone mention an exit sponsor who does not throw a million popups + one who pays on time everytime :)

isnīt there some sponsor called diesel exit or something [cant find the site though]

im starting a free site and when site reaches my goal of visitors ill use a exitsponsor on it to see if its worth it...

Joey

The Chosen
10-20-2001, 03:58 PM
as far as I know, diesel's exit program is not exist anymore..
and my only suggestion for you is to build your own exit and not using exit program because they are all shaving hits and has tons of exits.. :eek:

exitmoney
10-21-2001, 02:03 PM
Thechosen,

By building your own you are 100% guarantee to get less money and more work. Why exit sponsors exists is because we have hudge volumes and rates 1,5-2 times more than what you could get from regular sponsors. So working in making your own exit chain is not only waste of time, less money in your packet but you take a hudge risk of not getting paid from sponsors. If you will use lets say 2-3 different sponsors and 1 of them for any reason dont pay you you get 2/3 of the money that already is less that what you could have with an exit sponsor. By using the exit sponsor you are insured that you will get your money (unless you cheat). If shit happens the exit sponsor pays you from his own pocket and he is the one going after sponsors recovering the money. At least that is how we work at exitmoney.com as if we dont pay we are out of biz, we cannot say hell somebody did not pay we wont pay webmasters, as that is why we run this biz and make profit we have to be responsible for the risks as well.

So my advice I dont tell you to use our program choose one that is trustable and have been in the biz for a long term and allways paid nomatter what happened, and you are 100% sure that you maximize your money in the long run.

Good luck

Octav M.
http://www.exitmoney.com

Groovy
10-21-2001, 02:15 PM
i tried sye, it made me 0.85 cpm :(

the rest is killed by visitors or shaved.

if i make my own exit i can do 2-3 times more...

how about that?

elron
10-21-2001, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by exitmoney:
<STRONG>Thechosen,

By building your own you are 100% guarantee to get less money and more work. Why exit sponsors exists is because we have hudge volumes and rates 1,5-2 times more than what you could get from regular sponsors. </STRONG>

That's a totall bullshit . you either don't not the mechanism of the porn industry , or trying to take advantage over newbies with your stupid ideas .

Supposed A is the merchant/sponsor .
and C is the little webmaster that is trying to make some money .
The income to A is lets say 100 .
lets say he wants 60 out of those 100 . and he has 40 to spend to webmasters .
Those 40 can go directly to C .
Or another one name B which is you(octav) can get into the picture and take 20 out of the 40 . that will leave only 20 to C .

This is the basic rules of how this entire ecommerce works . u can bullshit us as much as u want about non payment or higher rates , that's all bullshit . one of the biggest scum that ran away with my money during my time as webmaster was an exit broker named Jack and had the program bimbocash.com .
further more , if we look at this whole idea more deeply , persons like you earns money without producing anything , you are not the sponsor , you are not the traffic expert , you just earn your precentage of the totall income by sticking yourself between the merchant and the traffic broker .

Now that was theory . lets give you some facts .
when i was selling my exit traffic to people like you , i was doing about 50-60% less then what i do with my own page .that's very similar to the calculation above .

Have a good day .

Elron .

exitmoney
10-21-2001, 02:55 PM
Elron.

read my post more carefully I explained your both questions before you even asked them but unfortunatelly you were too fast to post something and think that everybody after your post will see you as THE webmaster then know everithing guy :)

- I told you exit brokers have much higher rates. so your theoriy about A and B does not stand as the A amount a sponsor pays to you he might pay me 1.4*A - 1.5*A . From that we take our cut of course we are not charity but we don't take more than 10-15% so you still get more money by using an exit sponsor.
- Second your so smart deduction that exit sponsors are not producing anything was answered in my first post. As I said we are here to get webmasters much higher percentages and PAY you when shit happens with sponsors. Having a kind of insurance and not having headaches and sleeping tight I think is very helpful.
Now about Jack, once again that is exactly what I said in my first post but again you did not read it or understand it. I said that if you dont pay webmasters as exit broker you are out of biz. That happened to Jack and his resellers, they screwed webmasters and are out of biz. The same shit happened to exitmoney.com with all the problems happened back then with some sponsor but we survived and we paid our webmasters thinking than better make money long term than running away with a few hundred thousands as it seems to be "cool" nowdays with all those open overnight sponsors :)

So Elron, you could very well not agree with me and make your point clearly, that is why boards like that are made for but I will advise you to use less of the word "bullshit" and read what people post before replying with that "damn I am good I know everithing" kind of reply. That dones not make friends just pisses off people that know what they are talking about and try to make an intellingen discuttion on this board about Business not Fighting and Crying as more and more webmasters like you seems to love doing/reading on this board. AWI was used to be the best board out there, now it getts more and more waste of time of posting anything or reading anything here, lets all make our part and stop wasting badwithd by saying nothing interesting :)


Octav M.
http://www.exitmoney.com

elron
10-21-2001, 03:28 PM
Look , dont get offended by me using the words 'bullshit' , that's the way i express myself when i believe that what has been said make no sence .
Now to the subject itself . To sell a product you need the product maker , and advertising (plus accountant , attorney etc , but i dont count them right now) .
The product maker is the paysite owner , and the advertisers are the webmasters . they have cash worthed traffic .
All you do is connecting them , and take piece of the cake . You do not have any single part of the pieces that makes the whole system .
If you were a merchant , and you had a paysite . there will be the maximum % of the sales that you could give to webmasters before loosing . And believe me , with all the competition at the market , the sponsors do give their maximum to advertising . So the ammount stays A , and not 1.4*A .

Now we can discuss about this theory like that , or we can just go straight to the facts , that shows beyond any doubt , that selling traffic directly to paysite owner , will make 50-60% more then by selling them to exit brokers like you .
Believe me , i have tried not only you as sponsor that redirects my traffic to paysite owner , but also blind links sponsors at my exit pages such as nexus .

I may wish you luck with your program , i was here to give a little lesson to the guy that opened that thread .

Peace

Elron

donger
10-21-2001, 03:39 PM
if selling to an exit broker is so dope, why do most all you fuckers only count ~15% of our traffic? When a site has 10k uniques a day and you guys are counting 1.2k RAW exits, something is fishy. No brokers mention the fact that they're skimming your traffic either, they just all do it, as if "only american traffic" is somehow implied in the term "RAW".
:P

gotys
10-21-2001, 05:35 PM
Moreover, exit sponsors make adult sites a hell as they have this circle of popups that never end. I hate exist sponsors