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Fart
08-24-2001, 10:26 PM
Well, this is the FIRST email whatsoever I got from them since all the downtime and redirect mess. Needless to say that I couldn't get hold of them within the last days although I tried numerous times.


Subject: RE: my sites are getting redirected


>XXX,
>
>You invoice is 45 days past due. Billing has made numerous attempts to have
>you pay by several methods.
>
YYY, what made you think you could come away with this? Nonetheless I
will try to stay calm and discuss it with you:

I did send you my cc details and also offered wire transfer. You are
the one who couldn't process any of my perfectly good cards, cards with
which I paid hosting, software and content numerous times, everything
in the US, never a problem, and you also admitted that you are having
this processing problem with international visa and mastercard a couple
of times with your current processor. You also told me not to worry
(because I was) and that you are going to get it fixed on the payment
processor side. You refused to process my card manually or take a wire
or anything else although I offered this repeatedly. The only thing
that you sent me in "numerous attempts" was an automatic invoice. Now
what does that help if we are personally discussing the processing
problems on your side at the same time?
I also didn't kow that you wouldn't be able to process the card &
REFUSE to do it manually or take a wire BEFORE & I signed up and transferred my domains, how should
I?


You then opened a paypal account and told me to do as well, which I immediately did. Then I told you that I need to wait for the first cc statement because I need a number in there which paypal is going to submit along with their first test charge of $1. I told you that I should get the next cc statement in a couple of days because I get it every two weeks. I also told you that I can't just call the cc company and ask for the paypal number because paypal clearly says on their site that exactly this will get the paypal account canceled. I again offered to pay by other means but you simply didn't respond anymore. That was where we have been so far. Me waiting for the cc statement because you couldn't process cards and aren't willing to take wire or a check, and you, saying everything is fine, and deleting my account and redirecting my traffic a little later.

>
>The 200+ .htaccess file you uploaded to the server gave us some major
>memory problems by confusing apache beyond belief.
>
Below is an example of the .htaccess files I used. All where the same.
No additional instructions in other htaccess files. You are going to
tell me they caused problems? Well in that case the problem would be on
your side and your server configuration. If you were technically better
skilled you could have come up with something more reasonable. Needless
to say that the server run smoothly a couple of days without problems
WITH my htaccess files beeing there. Everyone who doesn't know much
about htaccess please spare your comments unless you know your stuff:

--start htaccess file--

DirectoryIndex anotherthanthedefault.html index.html
AddType application/x-httpd-php .html
ErrorDocument 404 http://www.mydomain.com/

--end htaccess ---

As for 200+, well it was 200+ domains and you told me that this is fine
with you (I even sent you the config files for the apache and the dns zone
files to decrease your work load, how many customers do that?). It was
200 htaccess files because it was 200 domains. Not hard to understand I
think.

>Besides not paying your invoice you took the opportunity to bash this
>company in the message boards every time we had some small downtime
>on your server and as a matter of fact some of that downtime
>was caused by your abusive and excessive .htaccess.
>

Look, in the first place you where down for days and didn't respond to any email, second I did try to pay and you didn't let me, and I didn't say anything else on the boards other than "my sites are
down too" after someone asked this (after the sites beeing down for a
hole day already and NO replies from you) and after another guy already
said that his sites are down as well. I didn't even start the thread.
If you followed the threads closely you could have seen that I was
pretty friendly about techiemedia and that I assumed that it "must have
been hacked or something".

In the following time you closed my ftp account (and opened it a few days and a couple of emails later after I asked where this is going to lead to and that I am fucking willing to pay but you won't let me and paypal needs a few days to get activated), later on you started
beeing down all the time, a little later you deleted all the htaccess
files on the server (ridicilous - you obviously don't know your stuff -
these htaccess files don't do any harm) which caused the server to NOT
display any ads anymore but just plain the galleries.

Finally you obviously lost you mind or something and just deleted everything on my
account right away and started redirecting the traffic to your sponsor

http://12.42.235.37/exit/novirtua/index.html

NOTE: YOU DID ALL THIS WITHOUT EVEN CONTACTING ME, without asking for
something or warning about anything!

Look man, I earn more than 99 dollar a day and my hosting fees have been more than 10x higher before, why the fuck should I not want to pay the damn fee! I sent you the cc details including even the cvv number on the backside, I offered wire payment and told you that I'd pay in any other way that you would come up with.

>We'd rather not have you as a customer on our elite service.
>
That is not the question at hand here, really not. Please let me know
what you are going to offer me as compensation for the downtime, the
data loss and the redirected traffic. I still can't believe that you
are serious about this or this beeing techiemedia, deleting accounts and stealing traffic.

Regards
XXX

>Regards,
>
>Support
>

snow
08-24-2001, 11:56 PM
I have never had a problem with them.... YOu sure dude.. There huge i dont see why?

Fart
08-25-2001, 12:45 AM
Hell I feel like the annoying "fart-against-hosts" because of the problems I had on my last host, but trying to decrease hosting costs from ~ $1.100 a month to $99 was probably a bad idea indeed.

Shit happens and downtimes occur, I KNOW that lol, it is "just" the way he "handled" the situtation which makes me upset, not the downtime itself.

And as for the "dash our company": When I finally made that "techiemedia clients check your domains" post, they ALREADY had my account deleted and were ALREADY redirecting my traffic to a fucking console hell (just beeing down would have been less worse because then I wouldn't have been marked as cheating webmaster which I probably am now in dmoz)! Their unbelievable actions was the reason for my post and not the other way round. That is important to know.

He fucking deleted my account just BECAUSE I REPLIED to the other, the first thread and said "my sites are down too".

Yeah man, right on, now popup some CP as well and say that was me. Try to charge the card (the one I sent you the full & complete details from) to the fullest extent. Probably you could come through with a domain hijacking, a fax from where the domains are hosted on to the registrar could do wonder? Yeah man right on, you have the right to do so because I said that I am down too, and this after already beeing down for more than a day and no replies to aynthing fro you.

Hmmmm?

And even in the second thread, even after I already was pretty sure that THEY did the redirection (because I obviously was the only one beeing redirected on that server with multiple accounts of people here from the board) I STILL said in that thread that I believe they "must have been hacked or something" - simply because I still got no explanation or anything from themselves yet.

This is just plain crazy.

Much0S
08-25-2001, 05:24 AM
Proof #6.234.234.123.752 that you really do get what you pay for :P

How can you believe you can get the same for $99 that you previously got for $1.100? How can anyone having a single brain particle believe that?

Fart
08-25-2001, 09:05 AM
Yeah you're right. I'm back to the usual prices now again. Just thought that indeed everything would be that cheap now cause so many cheap offers were popping up everywhere

Much0S
08-25-2001, 11:18 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">cheap offers were popping up everywhere</font>

Exactly. All cheap hosts (and with cheap i dont mean a little bit cheaper than the rest but things like $1/gig and stuff) are new. There's no cheaphost I know of that exists more than 3 months and doesnt fuck up.

You must decide for yourself ... is saving $1000 a month more important for you or making money with your sites continuesly? Because that's what it boils down to.

May I have your icq btw, there's no number mentioned in your details. My uin is 2227869

toker
08-25-2001, 02:04 PM
Just happy you didnt buy unlimited $8.95 hosting like some other poor soul did and ended up with a $14k hosting bill for $16 a Gig after the first month was up..

Fart
08-25-2001, 02:16 PM
I had ICQ installed once but not anymore. I'd prefer email if you don't mind: j_fart AT hotmail.com

$tandaman
08-25-2001, 05:20 PM
You pay your bills you get the support and you get to bitch about uptime, otherwise shut up, tech people go head over hills to get work done for people, and then they decide not to pay. Every host has a billing practice which you should find out BEFORE you signup, if you miss something you shouldnt blame everyone but yourself. If you pay your bills you will be treades as #1, no matter what size you are.
Thats my 2c.

Fart
08-25-2001, 05:57 PM
Very understandable that you speak up for your client techiemedia that you praised so much in the past no matter what but I made my case pretty clear and there is so much BS in your post that I don't even bother to go into details. Now go answer some support questions instead.

Due
08-25-2001, 06:00 PM
You should stick to a hosting company that

Much0S
08-25-2001, 06:06 PM
IMO you should find a host who understands your needs, whatever they should be (being low price, good connectivity, good support, whatever) and stick with them. It's just too much hassle changing each 2 months (if I recall correctly I read a post that you changed a lot)

Fart
08-25-2001, 06:37 PM
Yes that's right. Now I am looking into 2 small dedicated at two different quality non-adult-specific hosts plus a cheap mini dedicated at a third host, all combined through round robin at my registrars third party dns.

At one of the two quality hosts I already host a non adult dedicated since about 1 1/2 years now, which is hardly ever down (probably half a day in total and about 3/4 of that not caused through the host) and true 24/7 live phone support. I just didn't know they would do adult too.