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Anthony Raff
05-02-2001, 03:29 PM
Apprantly it's not a bug or a mistake. Exxxit is now doing a cost analysts on everyones account and reducing the rate accordingly. The exxxit team has told me on the phone an email went out to explain this, but I told them nobody ever got this email and they are working with the programmers to figure out why.
Ok fine they are reducing the rates because they are not making enough money. I completely understand this, BUT an attention notice on the stat page would have been nice to let everyone know what is going on. I think they should pay the normal rate for April as the mistake seems to fall on there hands.

help me out guys what do you think?

Friendly regards,
Anthony

http://space4porn.com (new freehost)

NickD
05-02-2001, 03:38 PM
I totally agree with Anthony, it is not fair to change the rate at the very end of the month without any notice. As of May2, 2001, 16:31 EST time, it is still indicated on their web site ( main page and rules page) that the rate is 0,006 , not to mention that there is no announcement on the stats page and nobody has received any notice per email, so why would we get paid anything else than 0,006 per raw hits for April?

Groovy
05-02-2001, 03:45 PM
hey NickD i thought they pay for uniques
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/confused.gif

Bill Cosby
05-02-2001, 03:54 PM
Dear exxxit sirs,
I am Bill Cosby , i will make sure your children never get another bite of pudding the rest of thier lives.

reyes
05-02-2001, 03:55 PM
Guys, they should'nt pay what they own, THEY must pay what they own. They never noticed anyone of anything, they can't change rules for april now, when all traffic is already sent. Nobody received any email, they did not wrote anything on the site, they can't change rates for the past now.

I agree they can change their program, close it, modify the rates, but they just can't do that without advising everyone.

I would have dropped them much before if I would know that..

Btw, look at their frontpage:

Earn $0.006 per hit!

EXXXIT IS GUARANTEED INCOME!

This is the real deal. Get paid for your traffic and for your traffic's productivitty.
We've made it SIMPLE

NO conversion rates to worry about.
NO restrictions on traffic quality.
NO hassle!


BABENET have to pay what they own for april.
0.006 per hits,
NO conversion rates to worry about.
NO restrictions on traffic quality.
NO hassle!

Due
05-02-2001, 03:55 PM
I agree with both Anthony and NickD.
I really hope that the exxxit team realise how big a mistake they made and then pay for it http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif
You cannot go 2 pay periods back changing the payouts based on a E-mail that never left their office and then only show it the day the checks should be leaving their office http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

futurestar
05-02-2001, 04:01 PM
I see both points. Exxxit must be able to make money on the traffic (God knows everybody throws their crap at exit programs) and you should be informed that your payout has been reduced. Either way, if they reduced their payout to 1/2 of what they are paying now, I'd still make more money than with the other sponsors I have used (hit counts suck).

I did notice in the terms:

1.4 Your commission shall be earned on the
first successful page load of Exxxit's timed
interstitial chain. Exxxit administrators will continually monitor the productivity of your traffic and may, at their discretion, adjust payout accordingly. In the event a commission is adjusted, you will be contacted by phone or at your registered email address.

Anthony Raff
05-02-2001, 04:06 PM
Futurestar, that's fine , lowering the rates so the program can be around longer and everyone is making is fine, that is a huge part of doing business.

*problem* they didn't let anyone know as they said they would in section 1.4 as you mentioned.


regards
Anthony

Tom Christensen
05-02-2001, 04:08 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by futurestar:

I did notice in the terms:

1.4 Your commission shall be earned on the
first successful page load of Exxxit's timed
interstitial chain. Exxxit administrators will continually monitor the productivity of your traffic and may, at their discretion, adjust payout accordingly. In the event a commission is adjusted, you will be contacted by phone or at your registered email address.</font>


Yes but this apply to all of us? According to my stats for April they STILL owe me $800

Sure they are allowed to change rates, however FIRST from the minute we recieve a mail from them.

Credde!
05-02-2001, 04:24 PM
If they don't pay those $0.006 pr. hit then I think they will easily be finished in business. Many people will stop using them including me (who are already looking for a new exit sponsor, just in case)

Tom Christensen
05-02-2001, 04:30 PM
Annoying that these roumers spread (cause I surely hopes its a rumor!)

pauly
05-02-2001, 06:06 PM
If they want to change the rate thats fine. Everyone needs to be profitable, otherwise whats the point. Changing the rate for a month after receiving traffic for that whole month and not advising anyone is B.S.

Besides the pay period is every 15 days. When did they figure out that they were not making money. Why didn't they tell webmasters on the 15th of April, and lower the rate for the second pay period. Why are they still advertising .006 on their website.

We deserve to be paid the full amount for April!

Paul

wildzero
05-02-2001, 06:19 PM
Maybe we should ALL give them a ring? Just when you think you have found the perfect exit sponsor they turn around and take you up the ass! (maybe) but we should make sure before we all slamming them... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif Cause it might just be another cgi problem like they always have and everything COULD be fine and dandy

Bill Cosby
05-02-2001, 06:28 PM
Wildzero, usually i pride myself Mr. Bill Cosby on being a kind and gentle person. But you are an idiot.Cant you read the posts here, they have cut the rates on anyone who sent a signifigant amount of traffic, and yes webmasters have called them.

wildzero
05-02-2001, 06:41 PM
It can't be, it just can't! Nooo! They owe me, $2686 for april! They better pay that, not the $1343 in there site.....
Shit happens eh!

Tom Christensen
05-02-2001, 07:03 PM
Well the stats for yesterday (May 1th) on my page says 17372 hits and that should be $104,23 ...

Devide it and it gets to be :
$0,005999 per impression

So I cant see they modified the stats

Bill Cosby
05-02-2001, 07:06 PM
Tom
the amount you are sending is nothing..the ones who got ripped send 10 times that amount everyday

Tom Christensen
05-02-2001, 07:33 PM
Hmmm, it would be wiser to fuck one like me then cause I wouldnt be able (profitable) to bring them to court anyway ...

Anthony Raff
05-02-2001, 08:32 PM
Tom Christensen, they are now doing a cost analysis on all the accounts. I guess your account is up to par. Or the more traffic you send the worse the ratio is and thus the less you send the better ratio is (which makes sence)


regards
Anthony

wildzero
05-02-2001, 09:07 PM
Hey, has someone got the phone number?
I looked over there site and can't find it, I have rung them before so it's there... somewhere, havn't gotten my march 2nd period check yet and was due 4 days ago

Anton P
05-03-2001, 01:06 AM
Well i guess the shit is coming our way now from our brother "mainstream"

In non adult web programs are closing down. cutting payments and all that shit.

I guess right now if you are a smart webmaster and set your goals realisticly you will understand that your profits will be cut almost in half now.

Basically what i am trying to say is
Dont be naive to find a program paying big bucks now. Go with what you think is realistic.

And as far as babenet i am sure they will be professional enough to settle this in a way that will be ok for everybody. I met Babenet crew at their office and they are very smart guys.

Anton P

Anton P
05-03-2001, 01:15 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Anton P:
Well i guess the shit is coming our way now from our brother "mainstream"

In non adult, web programs are closing down. cutting payments and all that shit.

I guess right now if you are a smart webmaster and set your goals realisticly you will understand that your profits will be cut almost in half now.

Basically what i am trying to say is
Dont be naive to find a program paying big bucks now. Go with what you think is realistic.

And as far as babenet i am sure they will be professional enough to settle this in a way that will be ok for everybody. I met Babenet crew at their office and they are very smart guys.

Anton P

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reyes
05-03-2001, 09:51 AM
You're right Anthony. I think they are correct people and they will understand that lowering rates, 1 month later, after it updated each single day of the month at 0.006$, is not correct at all. We have not been informed of anything.

I hope they will understand that.