NIGHT LINE MEDIA SEEMS TO HAVE LOST THERE USA ROUTE !!!

[k2011]

A friend told me that Night Line Media and all it's resellers have lost there USA Termination / Route.
Can anyone explain if this will be solves soon?

Thank you

[sexxring]

I resell for niteline and this is the statement I recieved. I sent it to all webmaster in my program.

Effective May 1, 2001 the routes for US and Greece traffic on your current dialers are no longer operational or payable. Clients will be paid for US and Greece traffic on these old dialers up to April 30, 2001. It is VERY IMPORTANT that you replace your current dialers with the NEW dialers Niteline will be sending to you within the next 24hrs. These new dialers will be operational to take US and Greece traffic. It is imperative that you get these new dialers up ASAP.

Niteline apologizes for this inconvenience, and we hope this transition in replacing our current dialers can be made as smooth as possible. As you know our business environment is ever changing and Niteline is committed to continue to provide you with guaranteed timely payments and the best service.

Thank you for your business. If you have any questions please contact us.

Regards,


Niteline Media

[candidpublishinginc]

Are their new routes 900 number routes?

[k2011]

This is not good I use a GIB dialer but my friend uses Night Line. He needed the 2 week payout now he will lose 3 days worth of USA traffic ( quite a bit of money ). Plus he told me that the new dialer they supplied him with is not working with USA mins.

Sexxring, Do you think that they really do not have a USA solution now and that he should try using someone else?

Thank you for you quick reply. Any other reseller that might have more info on this please post.

[sexxring]

I have a alternative for allmy webmasters as well as anyone needing a usa compatiable dialer. As the note said, your dialer provider should be sending you a updated dialer that covers all countries. If you have any questions, hit me on ICQ: 92873519

Peace,
Roger

[candidpublishinginc]

For the United States I mean.

[sexxring]

Candid:
I'm not certian. I have not yet been
contacted with all the detials.
ONce I find out for a fact, I'll post it here.

Thanks

[Bean]

Will all dialers eventually use a 900 number for US calls?

[k2011]

I have asked a few people using Night Line and they said that they received an e-mail TODAY stating they will not be paid for USA mins from May 1 - 3 even though they were only notified today. And to top it off the new dialer is not even counting USA traffic confirmed by a few other webmasters using Night Line also. So I do not know if it's a 900 solution or not it does not seem to be working either way.

Another sponsor that does not pay for traffic Webmasters worked hard for.

[whatever]

They have a new route...

It's not a 900 number....

I tested it and it seems to work....

I'm sure you will all get new dialers tommorow...

niteline has never screwed anyone out of a dime and im sure no one will be getting screwed this time either.... don't get your panties in a wad before you know whats going on people...

And No USA will NOT be 900 numbers in the future for dialers... (many reasons for this)

[terminator]

all usa routes are working fine with as at dialer king http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[whatever]

ahahah

yea till you get your first 6 months of charge backs in...

lol then all your webmasters will be wondering where their money is AND SO WILL YOU!!...

oh and god forbid you were dumb enough to sign a personal letter of credit for those 900 lines over at dialer king, that means they will take everything you own in court to pay back those charge backs mr. dialer king

mauhahaa...

[candidpublishinginc]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by whatever:
ahahah

yea till you get your first 6 months of charge backs in...

lol then all your webmasters will be wondering where their money is AND SO WILL YOU!!...

oh and god forbid you were dumb enough to sign a personal letter of credit for those 900 lines over at dialer king, that means they will take everything you own in court to pay back those charge backs mr. dialer king

mauhahaa...</font>

Actually,

You get hit with the chargebacks 2 months after the charges. Dialer king already got hit with them and is doing fine.

Also at the rates they are charging their surfers, they can still make a decent profit even at 60% chargebacks.

Dialer king has always paid me promptly on time every two weeks. Anyone that never tried them is simply being ignorant. I would suggest that everyone should try dialer king out and compare them to their favorite dialer program.

[candidpublishinginc]

Oh and whatever,

Before you go defending niteline, perhaps you should goto the FTC website and look at their past.

They've used some real shady tactics a while back.

[mb]

To all SexTraveler customers:

Talk about bad timing! I leave for a nice vacation in Italy and the day I arrive I find out that yesterday Niteline had USA trouble. I contacted Niteline and they will be sending all of my customers new USA dialers that work fine.

I am so sorry for the delay in getting back to all of you... We haven't had any problems lately so I took everything for granted I guess! We'll get everyone running back to normal very soon... I'm sure of it.

marc
www.sextraveler.com (http://www.sextraveler.com)

[snow]

We are all systems go at vip... I had some webmasters ask me if this happened to us... It only affected niteline..\\

snow@vipdialer.com

[Doctor Dre]

Snows post was info, My post was spam.

Dre, do you see me spamming? no, because i am a good boy - Rich.

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[k2011]

This guy snow is a fucking dick. Who the fuck asked you about your BS reseller program. I clearly stated that GIB did not have a problem it was Night Line and as Always you get in and Spam your shit. The moderators of this board should delete your reply and watch you ass on this board.
USE THE SPAM BOARD DICK !!!

Don't take advantage of a problem that does not have to do with you you ASSHOLE ( WANNA BE ).

I go out for one hour, and you're busting my balls - gimme a break


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[sexxring]

That was not spam, for your info Snow is a great guy trying to help out webmasters.
Whats your fucking beef anyway K2011??

[inside]

k2001 is the wanabee, Swinging his dick in here like he has something to say.

Inside, i believe you have an annonymous handle here, the policy on this is to boot your ass, dont give us an excuse to can your login.

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[Happy]

Sexxring, I see you are active on this board, but when I send you messages on ICQ or by email, I get no reply from you. I have not received my payment from you for my minutes, and it is not nice that you don't reply at all. Please do!

[snow]

K2 is pissed off cause i didnt shoot my load on his face... Any idiot who makes a statement like that with 7 posts is a dialer reseller..


I didnt see a url guys did you??
Respect is earned Asshole

Now scat and go elsewhere k2 scumbag

[toker]

HaHa this post is a fuckin trip!!

[whatever]

Ummmm...

Actualy you won't even know what your REAL charge backs are for the first 6 months... I'm sure if you know anythign you've seen the at&t chargeback curve chart (If not you better take a hrad fucking look myfriends).... After the first 2 months about 20% of your charge backs are in.....

So..... You are on track for 100% charge backs!!! WHICH MEANS YOU WILL LOOSE MONEY! cause at&t and the 900 provider always get their cuts regardless of chargebacks... its the line holder who realy gets fucked in the ass over them... and of course his webmasters... You see on every minute that charges back on a 900 line the line owner actualy goes in the hole around a 1.50 or so... its a bad fucking deal... (cause at&t and the provider keep their cuts)

congratulations on your smashing success over at **********...

bahahah you guys will be crying for your mothers when you realy find out what your chargebacks are gonna be...

AND NON OF YOUR WEBMASTERS WILL GET PAID..

If you are a webmaster and you have any kinda brain you would NEVER I repeat NEVER use a dialer that uses a 900 #.... Not if you like getting paid....

Just cause they pay now do you realy wanna take the risk they won't 3 months from now? Stick with someone you know you can trust...

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

truth hurts hugh **********?

[whatever]

ummm ok the ******* in my previous post which was so rudley censored by the board script was DIALER KING which is a joke...


thanks for your time...
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[unconnected]

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif no spam for you mister



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[whatever]

This is anyone using a 900# dialer in the future...

http://cooler.emax.ru/images/articles_one/634.jpg

[terminator]

whatever...
dialer king uses both international and 900, For usa plus 3 back ups!!!
and the charge back thing "curve" is fine.

so get your facts straight before you make your stupid ,unjustified claims.

thanks

bruce
dialer king

[candidpublishinginc]

How can AT&T keep their half if the person doesn't pay? A chargeback is an uncollectable.

Also, if a chargeback occurs I believe the Service Bureau also has the right to attempt to collect it by itself, but that rarely happens.

Any of you dialer networks here know if this claim of AT&T keeping half is true?

[candidpublishinginc]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by whatever:
ummm ok the ******* in my previous post which was so rudley censored by the board script was DIALER KING which is a joke...


thanks for your time...
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif</font>

Why is Dialer King a joke? They offer the highest payouts and very prompt payment. Unlike some sponsors that pay bi-weekly, dialer king doesn't hold back your money. You get paid via paypal for 1-15 on the 16! Now that's impressive.

[global internet billing]

I find it shocking and utterly irresponsible for a dialer to dial a 900 # first, and then connect via an international # if the 900# is blocked.

If a consumer has a 900 block on their phone line it's for a reason. If you create a piece of software to dial around it deceptively after a failed attempt at dialing a 900#, that's just wrong.

You are breaking 900 rules and asking to get in a whole lot of trobule. And promoting a dialer that works in this manner in a public forum is just plain stupid. I'd keep that information about how your dialer works to yourself, before the agencies who like to regulate dialers read it on a board like this.

[terminator]

global internet bill...
the only 2 reasons you have a problem with our software is

1) your software cannot compete with us as yours cannot do the USA redial feature.

2) the amount of webmasters that have switched to us from gib, and never gone back is in the 100s.

The last post of yours, indicates to us a sign of desperation in an attempt to "scare" webmasters back to you.

But guess what? you should concentrate more on paying the money you owe to webmasters since last sept then worry about us. yes you still owe one of our staff 50K.

If more of the webmasters that post on this board tried the dialer king software, then they to would switch to us. they would see the difference straight away.

the ones that bad mouth our product without even trying it are not serious business people. how can someone with brains bad mouth a product without trying it??

[Bean]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by terminator:
global internet bill...
the only 2 reasons you have a problem with our software is

1) your software cannot compete with us as yours cannot do the USA redial feature.

2) the amount of webmasters that have switched to us from gib, and never gone back is in the 100s.

The last post of yours, indicates to us a sign of desperation in an attempt to "scare" webmasters back to you.

But guess what? you should concentrate more on paying the money you owe to webmasters since last sept then worry about us. yes you still owe one of our staff 50K.

If more of the webmasters that post on this board tried the dialer king software, then they to would switch to us. they would see the difference straight away.

the ones that bad mouth our product without even trying it are not serious business people. how can someone with brains bad mouth a product without trying it??


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I will say that you have the best dialer by far. And you never have to worry about payments being late.

I don't think there is anyone in this business that pays as fast as these guys!

[whatever]

haahah

its obvious that the dialer king guys have no fucking clue how this bussiness realy works... AT&T DOES keep their cut EVEN IF THE CUSTOMER CHARGES BACK... THAT IS A FACT!

AT&T charges somethign like 12.5% billing fee for TRYING to collect the bill from the customer... they keep that percentage no mater if they actualy DO collect or not...

If they don't collect that just comes outa whatever funds they owe the line owner

on top of that you can be sure dialer king is not going through AT&T directly cause they would never aprove a line for this... they are going through a 900 service provider who will also take a cut of the action... and why don't you go ask your 900 service provider if they refund their percentage when a customer charges back... I can gaurentee you the answer is NO!

so you see what is realy happening here is a 900 service provider is running a scam on all the dialer companies trying to get them to put minutes through.. knowing FULL WELL they will almost ALL chargeback.. in 6 months but they dont care why? cause they get their money regardless!

dailer kings days are numbered...

of that you can be sure....

and anyone who is using dialer king will one day suddenly find that payment for their minutes has not arrived and when that day comes... and it WILL come.... you will now know why...

this has been a public service announcement from -truth king

[richard]

Whatever, what sites do you run?

[terminator]

whatever..
you sound like a jealous reseller for another network that cannot compete with dialer king resellers.

we have supplied #900 lines and international numbers for physic,dirty talk etc for 8 years.have you?
you really think we dont know what we are talking about??? lol

dialer king.com

[terminator]

spelling msitake: i meant Psychic line.

[richard]

never know, you might get some geeks calling up for a bit of hardcore dirty physics chat? http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[terminator]

hey richard when is dialerqueen happening?

[whatever]

well,

I know you are full of shit dialer king boyz...


lie all you want about your 'knowledge' and 'experience', I know the real truth...

hahaah

and unconnected is nothing but a propaganda spreading fool... I see all his posts aimed at making other companies look bad and it pisses me off... so I thought I would expose you fools for what you are.. FOOLS

you will learn...

richard... I would prefer not to discuss that here... but you might be surprised.. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

[terminator]

Thanks bean and candid for your great comments.
we listen to our webmasters, and try to give the best service and the fastest payments.

its good to know you are that happy with our program. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

bruce
dialer king.com

[richard]

Whatever, we'd prefer it if you did, because as it stands, you've an annonymous nick on the board.

What this means, is that you have "nothing to lose" in terms of reputation, so you can spout shit, and not care about the consequences.

So please, tell us all which sites you run/companies you are involved in.

Annonymous nicks are always the ones that stir things the most http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[candidpublishinginc]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by whatever:
well,

I know you are full of shit dialer king boyz...


lie all you want about your 'knowledge' and 'experience', I know the real truth...

hahaah

and unconnected is nothing but a propaganda spreading fool... I see all his posts aimed at making other companies look bad and it pisses me off... so I thought I would expose you fools for what you are.. FOOLS

you will learn...

richard... I would prefer not to discuss that here... but you might be surprised.. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif</font>

So I take it GIB will also crash n burn since they also use 900 #s now, right?

[whatever]

I have nothing to lose...

but I have nothing to gain...

I'm not promoting anyhting to you guys

nor am I trying to keep up a reputation....

nor am I trying to say one company is better than another

I'm just speaking the truth...

why should I have to list my bussiness ventures to these guys...

not in a million years...

sorry rich, your board is great though!

[whatever]

its pointless to argue with you guys...


in 6 months lets see how gun hoe you are on 900 numbers...

[candidpublishinginc]

Whatever,

When you first came on the board, weren't you bashing the adult industry in general? Why should we believe you? It seems you're just trying to stir things up.

I would assume companies like GIB did their research on this 900 number matter.

[basschick]

we got into the adult business promoting 900 sex numbers. as of 2 years ago, you could still easily get a 900 number through the phone company to promote the sex biz.

[candidpublishinginc]

Also,

You claim to be stating facts, but I have yet to see any hard proof. Why don't you show us some?

[global internet billing]

If anyone thinks that we didn't have the numbers crunched and spend countless hours reviewing cost/revenue models concerning 900#'s they are freaking morons.

It's a pretty simple equation. Pick a price point with a low price per minute to the end user , calculate worst case scenerio uncollectable levels, and then give our customers a rate which is commercially feasable.