View Full Version : Anyone From Germany Care To Help Me Out? This Is Some Messed Up Shit!
sandman
08-04-2001, 01:02 AM
Below are scans of a certified letter i got today in the mail regarding one of my many domains being used on my Free TopList Host.
I have read the english part 5 times and i still have no clue exactly what they want or are planing on doing.
http://www.hotpimp.com/german/1.jpg
http://www.hotpimp.com/german/2.jpg
http://www.hotpimp.com/german/3.jpg
http://www.hotpimp.com/german/4.jpg
ausboy
08-04-2001, 01:40 AM
sandman, if you use the search function, enter "german" as the search term, and search subject only, there are quite a few past posts explaining the hassles German webmasters have, you may find some answers in there.
sandman
08-04-2001, 01:46 AM
IM not a german webmaster!!!!
I live in the usa and i dont have a host in germany either!
So i dont get the point of this letter!
candidpublishinginc
08-04-2001, 01:49 AM
I don't think they can do anything to you. They are a bunch of idiots from what I read.
Crunch
08-04-2001, 02:07 AM
From the english text it just looks like they want to stop minors from seeing your sites, which isn't a bad thing for you. Like candid said, they probably can't do anything to non-german webmasters.
Dammy
08-04-2001, 03:28 AM
Weird.. The german and english text don´t quite match.. The german version says there are pics of minors in sexually explicit poses and that your site is degrading kids to a mere sex object... Nothing about this in the english "translation" though.
Tobias
08-04-2001, 01:24 PM
sandman:
I am from Germany and might can help you understanding the content of the letters.
The representative for the protection of children of an area in Germany wants the BpjS to list your site at the BpjS's list of material unsuitable for children. The request was submitted to the BPjS and they now ask you if you have any objections against this request. If you have objections you have to send them to the BPjs within seven days upon receival of this letter.
The english information is only some general information about the work of the BPjS.
The BPjS normally censores videos and computer games if they found them to be unsuitable for children or kids.
For example Quake,Doom,Duke Nukem and many others are listed as unsuitable for children.
It is forbidden to sell those vides/games to people under the age of 18 years. Additionally it is forbidden to advertise those videos/games which results for stores in selling them only on request to adults.
I don't know since when they take action against websites and how they think to enforce these action.
No ISP in Germany has ever and will ever censore access to these websites or any other websites...
Normally German webmasters who operate hardcore sites get visited by the police because it is against the law to operate such websites.
If you don't live in Germany (or plan visiting Germany in the future) you can ignore this...
- Tobias
eroticsky
08-06-2001, 11:32 AM
Sandman
Don't worry. I just can confirm Tobias posting.
Greetings from Germany
Ines
Sexyland
08-06-2001, 12:13 PM
Hmm you are not usin a german host but maybe .de domains?
But if you would do it you should get a letter with §184 .
sandman
08-06-2001, 12:25 PM
Sexyland: Its a .com and its not hosted in germany and i have never even been to germany.
Tobias: I dont care if they add me to thier list of adut domains http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
As long as thats all the letter is about let them have their list.
Killah
08-06-2001, 12:43 PM
Hi Ines, schick mir doch bitte mal deine ICQ, eroticsky hört sich interessant an.
raider
08-06-2001, 01:45 PM
Hehe jugendschutz.net in USA *lol*
Forget this mail but dont visit Germany after your Problems mit §184 nobody knows the laws in Germany not jugendschutz.net or any lawyer.
Killah
08-06-2001, 02:18 PM
"Sexualethisch Desorientierend" hehehe They should see some cripple-asians shitting on a shemale-dog, then they know what's real sexual disorientation http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
candidpublishinginc
08-06-2001, 02:49 PM
It sooooo stupid. I hear in Germany video and computer games can't have blood and come censored right out of the box.
MarcoTC
08-06-2001, 03:23 PM
I'm not from Germany (Holland so that's pretty close http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif)
I'm pretty sure that in the text under 'Begrundung' (in the first scan) they're simply talking about childporn!
Something like:
"The content on your site contains multiple nude pictures from children and minors in different poses."
Why is nobody mentioning this?
Sexyland
08-06-2001, 03:24 PM
Its not stupid.You all think you would loose traffic and $$$ if you had to put such strong AVS like the german.But i can tell you its not so.The german have best traffic you can get (better than german traffic is only .CH)The AVS is protecting german adultbiz against you and your flood of freeporn.German webmasters make same money with galleries on TGPs with 5000 visitors a day like you with 100k a day.And the AVS is also protecting childs that they havent to see some of your bullshit content like CP ,beasties and so on.
I say the strong AVS is TOP !!!!
The only think that suck at §184 is that there are no 100% advices which explain what to do to be sure not breaking this §
rukbunker
08-06-2001, 03:47 PM
Sexyland can u contact me?
bramdaman@punkass.com
eroticsky
08-06-2001, 05:49 PM
Killah:
Mache ich :-) muss nur erst neu installieren, da hier ein paar Akrobaten ein paar nette Scripts auf Toplisten verteilt habe, die trotz höchsten Schutzmechanismen eine format c: erforderlich machten :-(((
Mache es gleich mal
Gruß
Ines
tantegerda
08-06-2001, 06:31 PM
tach and hello dutch and american friends...
is there a way and possibility to host my tgp adultpage under a man/woman of confidence
so i do not get problems with the german laws?
Ja ja am liebsten würden se uns alle in handschellen einsperren und abführen...
bin neu hier und würde gerne auch mit euch über das ucj-c script sprechen.
sexyland hat bestimmt recht und wir sollten uns möglichst schnell darüber unterhalten, wie wir das ucj-c geordnet hinter die jugendschutsysteme bekommen.
würde bestimmt spass machen...
tantegerda
Killah
08-06-2001, 08:40 PM
Pretty simple: Einfach bei Tim kaufen und hinter ein AVS bauen...
Sexyland
08-06-2001, 08:52 PM
And then trade with international webmasers :-).No that wouldnt work sorry tantegerda.
If you are working with german AVS you only can do it in germany or you will die here and if you want work without AVS you only can do it here and not in germany.
P.S. German webmasters would be stupid if they would trade with us.Giving us his high quality one and getting our CJ or TGP traffic http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif)))
If you have some more question you can conntact me at 113468456
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