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SpyCam
04-11-2001, 09:58 AM
Anyone uses their exit proggie?
Can you post their exit console URL for me to take a look?

Are they counting good enough?


(p.s. no spam here)
Spy

nic
04-11-2001, 10:02 AM
i used them for 2 days and i had 10k noreferrers traffic and about 20k no referrers traffic and they counted less than 2k of my traffic
same thing as sellyourexit.com

kingfoo
04-11-2001, 10:07 AM
yeah I had the same problem with the blind program. they just pop up so much shit you never get a second page click.

nic
04-11-2001, 10:56 AM
their blind link program works pretty good for me

nic
04-11-2001, 10:57 AM
well, as good as a blind link program can, anyone know a better blind link prog?

kingfoo
04-11-2001, 11:02 AM
nic please email me, ericb41230@aol.com or ICQ if you have it 6369347 . I am looking for some blind traffic

candidpublishinginc
04-11-2001, 01:58 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by nic:
well, as good as a blind link program can, anyone know a better blind link prog?</font>

Well nic, perhaps you should give us a try. We offer 9 niche sites just like nex-cash BUT we do not have a blur console that pops up in the background like nexcash does.

Also, all you need to do is earn at least $1 to get paid by check or paypal.

Our url is http://www.candidclicks.com

Disclaimer: This is not a spam. He asked for something better. I'm not saying that our program is better than nexcash, but it does have some advantages. Results may vary from person to person.

nic
04-11-2001, 02:02 PM
can i see a blind link sample, like your code so i can see what people would be opening

candidpublishinginc
04-11-2001, 02:18 PM
Sure.

Email Steve at steve@candidpublishing.com and he can show you any niche site that you wish.

ThaKiller
04-11-2001, 03:39 PM
who talked of a 1st page blind link program some days ago?!

well, nexcash does pretty good for me but the console costs me a lot of money I guess http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

playa
04-11-2001, 06:36 PM
any blind link sponsers that will let clicks open a new browser?

why do blind link sponsers have that rule?

candidpublishinginc
04-11-2001, 06:56 PM
playa,

We can waiver that rule for you if you wish.

candidpublishinginc
04-11-2001, 06:57 PM
Just tell us your account name when you sign up. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Swat
04-11-2001, 07:34 PM
Nex-cash are using the same system/servers of SYE .

candidpublishinginc
04-11-2001, 07:44 PM
For their exit program, they are just resellers to SYE.

They run their own blind link program though.

Rod
04-11-2001, 09:06 PM
Candid: I just added your program into my site: rodstation.com/free

I will be sending hits from http://www.rodstation.com/free/main.html
http://www.rodstation.com
http://www.rodstation.com/free/free.html

and I put your code in target="blank" ....ok?

Thanks in advance,
Steve Rod

oh...and my account # is : rodguy

candidpublishinginc
04-11-2001, 09:16 PM
You're all set rod. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Nexcash
04-11-2001, 09:49 PM
ThaKiller,
just to let you know, on the 15th we will be launching a new blind program exactly like our current program, but with no entry console. We also have developed a new cleaner exit console than Candiclicks! It will have the same lower payout as Candiclicks but we pay 2 times a month & have less rules. So anyone who doesn't like pop ups won't have to wait a month for their cash.

Happy Easter

Al at NEXCASH

nic
04-11-2001, 10:06 PM
sounds good al

candidpublishinginc
04-11-2001, 11:03 PM
"We also have developed a new cleaner exit console than Candiclicks! It will have the same lower payout as Candiclicks but we pay 2 times a month & have less rules"

First off al, it appears as though someone needs a grammar lesson. I trust you were trying to say that your exit console will be cleaner than Candid Clicks? That second part though, dear alfred, has all of us a little perplexed. The same lower payout as Candid Clicks? Please clarify, since Candid Clicks offers a higher potential payout than nexcash ever has

Second, we find it flattering that you would try to emulate Candid Clicks... but bottom line you are just removing a traffic trap and going back to your old style program. Is that really an innovation, worthy of being called "new"?

And lastly, you did claim back around Valentines day that you wouldn't be posting anymore. However, it seems whenever the people start talking about Candid Clicks you surface to throw your one cent in. Who wants to deal with a program run by people who dont keep their word? :-)

Happy Easter to you too al. By the way, we love the bunny rabbit and eggs on your page. We can't wait to see what kind of spooky icons you float around your page when Halloween comes around. Cheers, champ.

steve@candidpublishing.com

rhizome
04-11-2001, 11:22 PM
Nex-cash totally rocks. I meta-refresh all my 404 traffic to it and still reach a higher CPM than any other blind link program even with the BLURRED entry console. BTW, Candid, if you read the title of this thread, it says "Nex-Cash." I wouldn't expect anything less than Al coming here to reply to such a thread. And you're the last person that should be ripping Al for lack of innovation.

candidpublishinginc
04-11-2001, 11:38 PM
Rhizome, we allow our webmasters to meta-refresh as well as do other tricks as long as they run it by us. A major freehost is actually sending us their 404 right now. We are quite flexible if someone proposes something to us. Not sure what the last line of your post is implying, but keep an eye on Candid Publishing, Inc. in the coming months for plenty of innovation and curveballs. And we are talking about more than just blind links.

Steve@CandidPublishing.com

Nexcash
04-11-2001, 11:49 PM
Candi, maybe he means when you copied our pages, then when you copied our niche sites, then when you copied our $1 minimum payout.

Does that clear it up for you?

And Candi, you can pick on me all you want but leave the Easter Bunny out of it! He never hurt anybody!

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 12:31 AM
al,

we had the niche idea in the works weeks before you ever launched your niches. Remember we launched just about the same time? Is this an example of great minds thinking alike? I don't know about that, but I do know that we are using long standing standards of the industry and innovating as we see fit.

As for the minimum payout, your terms state a minimum $50 standard payout. I don't think the "nexi challenge" compares to a standard $1.00 minimum all the time for anybody.

And concerning Mr. Easter Bunny, he has always been very generous to me. I have nothing against him. Cheers. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Steve@CandidPublishing.com

Nexcash
04-12-2001, 12:55 AM
Oh I see Candi,

so you're saying you only copied our pages?... the other 2 were just a fluke. Strange how your new ideas always seem to come out after ours.

"nexi-challenge"...Candi, you spend more time at nex-cash.com than I do!

That would explain all of the "innovation & curveballs" you're planning.

FYI if a thread is called nex-cash it's not about you.

Everyone making 4cents/click on candiclicks raise their hand...that's what I thought.

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 01:23 AM
alfred,

you sure do give nexcash a lot of credit, claiming we try to copy your every move. I wouldn't flatter yourself too much, since you are changing your traffic stealing practices in order to stay competitive with us. Getting rid of your blur console and repackaging it as a new program? Seems if I had your mentality I would be accusing you of copying our program, since we don't blur our surfers and you will be starting to do the same. When we first spoke on the boards al, you said if we wanted competition all we had to do is ask. well please by all means bring it on, because your showing so far has been mediocre at best. Stop slinging the mud on the boards and email us or call our office and we can discuss matters if you have a problem. This is a business, and your playing it like a board game.

Nexcash
04-12-2001, 01:52 AM
Candi,

getting a little hot under the collar?

you're the 1 who started this. You came into a post about nex-cash.

It seems to me that you're the only 1 who ever posts about candiclicks.

I do talk to my competition (ex. offshoreclicks.com). If you notice we have never contacted you.

As for the mud, I already told you before that I don't think it's proper for you to solicit webmasters the way that you do. Every time some one mentions our program you chime in about your program but never mention that you only pay 2 cents/click.

You're mistaken, I haven't started competing with you...yet.

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 02:36 AM
Actually this handle is Michael's, the founder of Candid Publishing, Inc. I am a partner in the company, and occasionally use this name. Michael handles most of the public relations on the boards, which you seem to consider soliciting. He has been posting here for a long time (long before you showed up) and has always been an active poster, and a helpful contributor. I completely agree with his methods of networking and if you don't like it, well then that is just how it goes.

Time to put the mud down. Our colleagues can surely make an educated choice on our programs without us pointing out the downfalls of each other.

"You're mistaken, I haven't started competing with you...yet"
Fire when ready al. We are looking to be competitive in business, not make enemies.
Besides, we have a few aces up our sleeve we have been waiting to play http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Steve@CandidPublishing.com

taked0wn
04-12-2001, 03:16 AM
cool, sponser wars. So who wants mine? 15K traffic.

basschick
04-12-2001, 03:59 AM
hey, al, thanks for making the changes i requested for the nexcash stats - it should really help a lot http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Due
04-12-2001, 04:37 AM
Candid&gt;
Hmm just noticed something.
You are shaving away traffic with no refferers right?

basschick
04-12-2001, 06:06 AM
i am happy with nexcash, but candid DOES show referrers! just log into your stats and click on the date - the page urls are there.

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 07:40 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Due:
Candid&gt;
Hmm just noticed something.
You are shaving away traffic with no refferers right?</font>

Due,

We aren't shaving anything. Traffic that doesn't have a refferer tends to come from spam emails, chat rooms, etc.

However, if you would emailed us instead of doing lame accusations that we're shaving, we would have been more than happy to take off the no refferer filter for you.

nic
04-12-2001, 08:00 AM
Why do you even have rules and stuff like that if you are willing to take everything off, Candid, I decided, I will join your program if you make your script multiply all my clicks by 10. Can you do that?

Nic

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 08:49 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by nic:
Why do you even have rules and stuff like that if you are willing to take everything off, Candid, I decided, I will join your program if you make your script multiply all my clicks by 10. Can you do that?

Nic</font>

Nic,

We aren't willing to take everything off obviously. But, we are willing to waiver things if a webmaster requests it.

For example if a webmaster asks us to send his or her exit traffic to his gateway console, we're willing to waiver the rules for him BUT we monitor his account more carefully.

Having a base set of rules, and than waivering them on a case by case basis is easier on us from an administration standpoint.

Obviously some rules will always stay, such as our spam policy.

nic
04-12-2001, 08:52 AM
ok

Muff
04-12-2001, 09:21 AM
anyone have some clickable urls for candid and nex-cash.

first one to post gets the 2 cents http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Thanks

Muff

Muff
04-12-2001, 09:30 AM
taken from nex-cash

"You may post blind links or manipulate the back button to go to our site. You are free to generate traffic by any method that is not in violation of the terms herein. Including meta refresh tags, javascripts, onmouseovers , etc."

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/eek.gif

am I reading this right, you can send exit traffic???

Muff

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 09:35 AM
Yes you can send exit traffic to their blind link program.

You can also send exit traffic to our program if you email us your account name so we can flag your account.

I recomend that you send exit traffic to an exit sponsor though, such as Killah's sellyourexit.com program.

kingfoo
04-12-2001, 09:38 AM
http://www.freepics-r-us.com/index.asp?lid=71724

this is a hardcore link

Muff
04-12-2001, 09:40 AM
Thanks Candid.

Not looking for any blindlink sponsors at the moment, but I'll check you guys out when i'am.

Muff

kingfoo
04-12-2001, 09:41 AM
nex-cash, just checked out the link myself for the first time.

Let me get this right, you pop up a console which does not pay us, and we get paid for traffic sent to join4free?

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 09:45 AM
Nex-cash will be removing that blur console in their new and improved program on the 15th.

We currently do not have a blur console.

I suggest that you try both nex-cash and us, and see which program does better.

If you have any questions, feel free to email me at mike@candidpublishing.com

kingfoo
04-12-2001, 09:46 AM
candid, tried them already, didn't work with my traffic, sent about 120 hits, they counted none. I am just building my own program instead

Muff
04-12-2001, 09:47 AM
Cabdid do you own the sites that your webmasters send traffic to? Or do you send it to other sponsors like nex-cash?

Nexcash
04-12-2001, 10:21 AM
As usual Candi,

some one asks about nex-cash & you think it's about you.

Nex-cash is not removing the blur console and starts payouts at 2.5cents/3cents for 1000/3.5cents over 2500, paying 2 times a month.

Nex-cash is adding a NEW program without a blur console that will pay almost the same as Candiclicks 2cents/2.5cents for 1000/3cents over 2000, unlike Candiclicks will be paying 2 times a month.

We just figured how much extra we can make paying webmasters 20% less for their traffic the way candiclicks does. So why not?

kingfoo, please keep your story straight. First you used our blind program but it didn't work, then you looked at it for the 1st time today. And FYI, the console blurs, so it hides behind the main page & doesn't steal traffic.

here is a Candiclicks link
www.candidclicks.com/cgi-bin/enter.cgi?socool&id=teen (http://www.candidclicks.com/cgi-bin/enter.cgi?socool&id=teen)

The wording & style should look familiar if you looked at our page. And everyone knows whose page came long before whose.

Basschick, you're welcome.

Muff, he does everything like us.

richard
04-12-2001, 10:29 AM
Dudes, keep those gloves on, or i'll close the thread.

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

nic
04-12-2001, 10:32 AM
Al, when i click on one of your links the console does not hide itself, it pops right up over it!

LMK,
Nic

kingfoo
04-12-2001, 10:40 AM
yeah nic I noticed that also. but I would rather just see this thread closed

Nexcash
04-12-2001, 10:49 AM
that's a fair comment nic.

It might depend on what browser you use or your screen resolution.

Here is the code we use to blur it.

&lt;script language=Javascript&gt;
myWin = window.open('');myWin.blur();myWin.location = 'http://www.tons-of-free-pics.com';

The truth is that most surfers barely notice the console until they close the main page.

This new program will be for people like you, who want to be sure the console is not taking their money. I understand you can't trust anybody in this business.

I know it's hard to trust sponsors but our size & pay checks 2 times a month speak for themselves. We make you money.

nic
04-12-2001, 11:21 AM
Yes, I know you pay, and I really appreciate it! Hehe, Al is very good, he responds very quickly to problems or questions and pays on time every 15 days. Thanks for the good program al.

Nic

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 11:26 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nexcash:
As usual Candi,

some one asks about nex-cash & you think it's about you.
</font>

No, al. It's called presenting an alternative. If your program is so great, than you should not be concerned about webmasters trying our program out. After all they'll come back right to your program since it is so great.

Someone asked for another blind program, I gave them mine. If no one would have asked, I wouldn't have posted.

The truth is that webmasters like to use multiple sponsors. I have quite a few webmasters that use both Candid Clicks links and nexcash links.

Oh and to answer Muff's question, we broker our traffic to other 3rd party sites like nexcash.

Don't worry though muff, we will have tons of new programs and services that'll be rolling out 2001 and 2002. We're sure you'll be able to find something that you'll like. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

mike@candidpublishing.com

nic
04-12-2001, 11:33 AM
candid has a right to be here i think, i was just wondering if there was something better than nex cash or something different, to just try them out, he presented me with an alternative, i don't think hes wrong, i don't think your wrong, i think the programs would have the same results, we will just see, i enjoy being paid twice a month to keep money in the bank while I wait 45 days for GIBs check, if it costs me $10 a month less to get paid twice a month i'll do it. Nex cash runs a great program and I'm sure y ou do as well candid, everyone keep paying us webmasters!

Nexcash
04-12-2001, 12:19 PM
My point is that it should be another webmaster who has nothing to gain that recommends a program.

Not the owner of a program. That is the same thing as spam.

Why do people get angry when Snow spams his programs?

That's all I'm saying.

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 12:29 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nexcash:
My point is that it should be another webmaster who has nothing to gain that recommends a program.

Not the owner of a program. That is the same thing as spam.

Why do people get angry when Snow spams his programs?

That's all I'm saying.

</font>

I have to disagree with you al. Spam would be an unsolicited posting. Someone asked for another blind link program, and I simply gave them an alternative to try out.

Oh and al. Please let's not attack Snow now. It's actually quite the opposite alfred. Yes there is a select minority that do complain, but most webmasters are very happy with Snow. Snow runs one of the BEST dialer programs in the industry.

xApster
04-12-2001, 12:35 PM
Well just to let you know there is a program that pays 5 cents per click... no blur console... no exit consoles ect.... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I dont work for them or anything ... have not tried them out ... and i think its run by 12clicks... anyone tried them?

http://www.clickthrutraffic.com

xApster

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 12:42 PM
I haven't tried them, but I have heard good things about it.

It is a quality Standard Internet program, and webmasters should by all means go try it out.

If it's run by Standard Internet, it's gotta be good. I'm sure al agrees with me. Don't you al?

devlind
04-12-2001, 12:42 PM
Spam?!?!? WTF is that??

No, why is everyone arguing about this crap... I mean you got nexcash, you have candid clicks... I use both.... I mean why not right... some days one pulls more then the other and on other days the other one pulls more....

My experience in this industry is that you have to spread your sponsers out. You can't just have 2 sponsers you use all the time. It's a bitch when they owe you a few K that your counting on to survive and you log into their site one day and find out they went out of business or sold there company, or all of a sudden your cheating cuz they don't have the funds to pay you.

Spread your sponsers out.. Use Both, Use all of them.... If they pay you and you can convert... Keep using them... If they don't pay you then quit using them... This Technique has kept me from going under many months..

-dev
hornyland.com

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 12:49 PM
Dev is 100% right.

I was trying to explain this to al a few posts earlier, but he didn't seem to understand.

I'm glad to see you pleased with both nexcash and us.

xApster
04-12-2001, 01:05 PM
Cand you should really add a celeb niche click thru.. would be really good http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 01:13 PM
Don't worry xApster, we'll be adding more niches shorty. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

ThaKiller
04-12-2001, 01:16 PM
clickthrutraffic banned 3/4th of all countries http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

italy, belgium, denmark, netherlands, hungary, greece .. just to name some in my region

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 01:32 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by candidpublishinginc:
Don't worry xApster, we'll be adding more niches shorty. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif</font>

Shortly, not calling you shorty lol. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Bean
04-12-2001, 02:42 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nexcash:
here is a Candiclicks link
www.candidclicks.com/cgi-bin/enter.cgi?socool&id=teen (http://www.candidclicks.com/cgi-bin/enter.cgi?socool&id=teen)

The wording & style should look familiar if you looked at our page. And everyone knows whose page came long before whose.

Basschick, you're welcome.

Muff, he does everything like us. </font>

Are all blind link programs console hells like that? There was delayed consoles in that shit too!

It seems these exit sponsors are just terrible these days.

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 03:22 PM
Well that's the exit program we send out exit traffic to, that's being the console hell.

Our program has no consoles.

If we find a suitible exit program out there that has a cleaner exit we'll probably use them.

Due
04-12-2001, 03:59 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by candidpublishinginc:
Due,

We aren't shaving anything. Traffic that doesn't have a refferer tends to come from spam emails, chat rooms, etc.

However, if you would emailed us instead of doing lame accusations that we're shaving, we would have been more than happy to take off the no refferer filter for you.

</font>
Candid&gt;
I ask you a question.
(do you shave away clicks with no refferes)
Then you start saying I'm making lame accusations. WHAT THE FUCK?
I asked you a question and you say something like that.
Personally I don't see a problem with that. Since it is a relevant question because no refererer traffic is aprox 15%-30%
And you say that you shave them away HOWEVER I can mail you and ask you to stop shaving.
COME ON DUDE.
Why the fuck do you start shit like that.
You are really proffesional.
I tried your program. Gave it a chance and when I asked a legit question (wich I was right about you call it accusations)
I can understand now that you paid that much for your script since not all script include your shaving ability. And you should have wrote on your mainpage that I should have requested to get the shaving turned off if I intended to send you traffic.

You know that you fully committed in doing fraud now right`?
P.S. I joined the program because it was you and snow that was running it so I assumed it was legit. What a JOKE
Keep the $10 I made or whatever it was I think you need it

Labret
04-12-2001, 04:16 PM
I can hear the whistle of incoming shells.

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 04:40 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Due:
Candid&gt;
I ask you a question.
(do you shave away clicks with no refferes)
Then you start saying I'm making lame accusations. WHAT THE FUCK?
I asked you a question and you say something like that.
Personally I don't see a problem with that. Since it is a relevant question because no refererer traffic is aprox 15%-30%
And you say that you shave them away HOWEVER I can mail you and ask you to stop shaving.
COME ON DUDE.
Why the fuck do you start shit like that.
You are really proffesional.
I tried your program. Gave it a chance and when I asked a legit question (wich I was right about you call it accusations)
I can understand now that you paid that much for your script since not all script include your shaving ability. And you should have wrote on your mainpage that I should have requested to get the shaving turned off if I intended to send you traffic.

You know that you fully committed in doing fraud now right`?
P.S. I joined the program because it was you and snow that was running it so I assumed it was legit. What a JOKE
Keep the $10 I made or whatever it was I think you need it[/B]</font>

Due,

If you have a question you are supposed to email us, not spew it across the board.

Due please refrain from libelous statements such as "shaving" and "fraud. You are simply wrong here, and you know it.

Do you even realize how many clickthru sponsors do not count traffic from non referring urls? Lots. Cybererotica, CEN, blindclicks.com (run by LENSMAN) just to name a few.

So are you saying these sponsors are shaving hits?

Do you realize that clicks coming from email spam, chat rooms, newsgroups, etc will not have a referring url?

Right in our rules it states:

"All clicks must come from a web site. No clicks solicited through spam emails, newsgroups, instant messages, chat rooms, icq etc. will be counted."

Let's take a look at blindclicks.com which is under beta testing:

"Your clicks must come from a web page, any form of spamming is prohibited, including email, newsgroups, irc, chat boards, etc. We discard hits without referring information so don't even bother to spam, you will not be paid for spamming."

Oh and we ONLY turn off the non referring filter if the webmaster wants to send traffic through an exit console, java popup, etc.


Lastly, even though you publicly bashed us on the boards, we will still be sending you your 10 dollar check.

Mike@CandidPublishing.com

Due
04-12-2001, 06:18 PM
I cannot understand why you compare yourself to sponsors like CEN, CE, MaxCash or whatever.
That is simply not the question here. Agree?
I asked you. "Do you shave away hits comming without refferer info"
The answer is YES.
There is no need to ask for getting aprox 20-30% of my traffic turned ON for traffic since it does not carry refferer info (proven by Scorpion2, Blindio2, UCJ IV, Several other login scripts)
You say I bad mouth your company because I ask such a question? I do not understand that. You terms say they will discard SPAM etc. but NO REF traffic is not equal to traffic comming from SPAM. Mostly you will be able to show in your logs it is comming from SPAM but since you invested so much money in your click through script you would already know that.

rhizome
04-12-2001, 07:02 PM
90% of traffic meta-refreshed doesn't carry referring URLs and I don't think blindclicks allows meta-refreshes. Also, as far as I know CEN and Cybererotica pay on traffic that doesn't have any referring URL.

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 07:21 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Due:
I cannot understand why you compare yourself to sponsors like CEN, CE, MaxCash or whatever.
That is simply not the question here. Agree?
I asked you. "Do you shave away hits comming without refferer info"
The answer is YES.
There is no need to ask for getting aprox 20-30% of my traffic turned ON for traffic since it does not carry refferer info (proven by Scorpion2, Blindio2, UCJ IV, Several other login scripts)
You say I bad mouth your company because I ask such a question? I do not understand that. You terms say they will discard SPAM etc. but NO REF traffic is not equal to traffic comming from SPAM. Mostly you will be able to show in your logs it is comming from SPAM but since you invested so much money in your click through script you would already know that.</font>

"I cannot understand why you compare yourself to sponsors like CEN, CE, MaxCash or whatever.That is simply not the question here. Agree?"

Why can't I compare myself to CE, CEN, and the like? I can compare Candid Clicks to any click thru program I wish. I was simply comparing myself to them to show an example of what other click thru programs do.

"You say I bad mouth your company because I ask such a question? I do not understand that."

Has the thought occured to you that maybe you should EMAIL US before bashing us on the board and calling us hit shavers? Do you realize what a huge pet peeve this is for sponsor programs? Try to see it from the sponsor point of view.

"There is no need to ask for getting aprox 20-30% of my traffic turned ON for traffic since it does not carry refferer info (proven by Scorpion2, Blindio2, UCJ IV, Several other login scripts)"

So which is it Due? Is it 15%-30% or 20%-30%?
You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to turn off the no referrer filter for every webmaster on my program. We'll see how many hits are no ref hits I get.

"such a question? I do not understand that. You terms say they will discard SPAM etc. but NO REF traffic is not equal to traffic comming from SPAM."

Blindclicks.com, a new upcoming blind link program run by Lensman thinks so. That's why his program doesn't count no ref traffic just like ours. Allclicks.com doesn't count NO REF traffic. Do they state in their terms that they do not count NO REF traffic? No. They simply state that they discard clicks from email spam, icq, aol, etc. I guess they shave too huh?

"Mostly you will be able to show in your logs it is comming from SPAM but since you invested so much money in your click through script you would already know that."

Since you are such an expert on detecting spam, why don't you explain to me how that is done?

Listen Due, do me a favor. Join that new nexcash program that al will be launching on the 15th. Send them a week of traffic. Then join my program and send me the same amount of traffic. If nexcash does better for you by all means stick with them. But please, stop with the libel.

Mike@CandidPublishing.com

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 07:25 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rhizome:
90% of traffic meta-refreshed doesn't carry referring URLs and I don't think blindclicks allows meta-refreshes. Also, as far as I know CEN and Cybererotica pay on traffic that doesn't have any referring URL.</font>

rhizone,

For their per signup program I think that they allow you to send no ref traffic. I was talking about their per click programs.

Also you say that blinkclicks.com doesn't allow meta refreshes? We don't either, unless you ask permission. From there we take off the no referrer filter and flag the account.

Due
04-12-2001, 07:43 PM
candidpublishinginc
Please remember we are talking about YOUR program. YOUR program only.
I don't care what other people offer but I used your program and found out you shave away hits comming from "no refferes"
so you shave away a great amount of traffic.
We are not talking about CE,CEN,Maxcash or whatever.
I don't care about them.
I will post a follow up tomorrow, talk to you then

candidpublishinginc
04-12-2001, 07:49 PM
Due,

We do not accept traffic from consoles, unless it is approved by us. Every click program out there that doesn't deal with consoles utilizes this business practice. It is an industry standard. If you do not like this, find another sponsor. Please stop making this a public issue and if it bothers you that much, reply to us in email, or give us a call. Thanks.

Steve@CandidPublishing.com

ThaKiller
04-12-2001, 09:40 PM
Bah 4:40 am zZzZz

I`ll read all this later when I actually understand what the problem was... seems to be a good thread though - I love this board http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

oh yea, Due: will you restart your exit program?

Due
04-14-2001, 06:48 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by candidpublishinginc:
Due,

We do not accept traffic from consoles, unless it is approved by us. Every click program out there that doesn't deal with consoles utilizes this business practice. It is an industry standard. If you do not like this, find another sponsor. Please stop making this a public issue and if it bothers you that much, reply to us in email, or give us a call. Thanks.

Steve@CandidPublishing.com</font>

I'm not talking about people openning your site in a console though. I know that it is standard that it is not approved.
I'm just talking about the average John Doe surfer that doe not carry any refferers.
Now if you say you count all them I'm sure that Tim that wrote UCJ, Dan & Mat that wrote Blindio and Krister that wrote Scorpion would pay you a HELL OF A LOT more than what you paid your programmers to get this script written.
I agree this should not take part on a part. This should not be needed.
If you say it is to catch spammers then why not just can accounts that have too big amount of traffic comming without refferers comapred to what is comming with refferers. Pretty simple and should be possible considering the amount of money I was reading you paid for it in some other posts on this board.
But please don't say I badmouth your company because I ask a simple question that is not even relevant when choosing a blind click sponsor but also true.
If you got any questions with that I sincerely belive you are in the wrong business because it will happend again. And again.
/Due

candidpublishinginc
04-14-2001, 09:36 PM
With all due respect Due, your calculations of lost traffic are completely wrong. We are not sure how you came up with a figure of around 30%, because after the removal of our filters the non referrer url traffic totaled less than .25% - yes less than a quarter percent. That is a liberal estimate, it is in fact even less. Like I said before, if you don't like how our program works, use another.

This thread has lived long enough. You have more questions? Contact us. Your beating a dead horse here.

Steve@CandidPublishing.com

shane94
04-15-2001, 10:54 AM
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Amen!
Ok we are done!

Shane