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nastradamus
08-05-2001, 05:09 PM
Where do you buy dedicate-service guys???

Answers like kikko.com will be ignore http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Jon
08-05-2001, 05:26 PM
Well I am opening a free adult host in a couple days and I just got my server up...Pretty sweet server...I love my host and they are always there when I need them http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif I never have downtime with my virtual account and now switching up to dedicated http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I use xxxhostit.com check em out...The owners are pretty cool http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Jon

nate
08-05-2001, 06:06 PM
you can lease a dedicated from me for ? I have all the bandwith you need.....we can work something out

Cyrix
08-05-2001, 07:15 PM
Nastra, posmotri hosting.likewhoa.com... Vpolne ser'eznie rebyata

wiZd0m
08-05-2001, 09:18 PM
qualitythumbs, they charge you 220$ per Mbits, or you got a better deal.

toker
08-05-2001, 10:20 PM
I think $220 is fair for 1MBps some people have just seen all these hosts who offer way less but the support on most sux. I would rater pay a tech to sit and do his job then hang at the strip club untill his alpha pager goes off.

You must understand you get what you pay for. Sure there is hosts who offer $1 per gig but thats on a PI 266mhz colo in their garage on a DSL modem and with a industrial fan to keep it cool.

Now would you prefer to pay and get good support 24/7 reliable servers and good uptimes or that?

I will give you $.50 per GB $100 per month for a 800mhz PIII server no setup fees colo in a friends back yard on a 600kbps cable line interested in cheap? http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

TwinTone
08-05-2001, 10:25 PM
Come see us..

http://www.hosthead.com

Jon
08-05-2001, 11:50 PM
Thanks toker...That is for real...Support with hosting is very hard to come by...I mean...Some are never to be found and the servers suck and you are stuck with them!
And umm...do any of these hosts read? The person asked for comments on hosts...Not spamming your own host...Read before you post people!

Jon

Energy Hosting
08-06-2001, 12:01 AM
Is $220 per mbps a fair price? yes
Is $220 per mbps a fair price for cogentco bandwidth? I don't think so.

Jon
08-06-2001, 12:06 AM
And $220? Nah paying a bit more but I have no problem with paying a bit more for the services I get. As with any real hosting company the price goes down per mbit as you buy more...I like the way its setup because its easy to expand my bandwidth...One simple message or phone call and I got more bandwidth...But overall if you are gonna pay cheap prices for shit...Don't expect to make too much money...I mean...How fast does www.myxxxdomain.com (http://www.myxxxdomain.com) load for you? NO ITS NOT OPEN so its not spam :-P

Jon

Jon
08-06-2001, 12:09 AM
Energyhosting...

Where you buy your bandwidth from is not as much as a concern as uptime and speed...I expect maximum uptime with my website and I get that...Simple as that...The loading speed is remarkable and the support is good...What else is there to say? Company names are nothing...Its the service

Jon

Energy Hosting
08-06-2001, 12:22 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by qualitythumbs:
Where you buy your bandwidth from is not as much as a concern as uptime and speed</font>

Where a host gets their bandwidth from is directly connected with uptime and speed, it makes a huge difference. Having only one connection to a provider with a few peering points will eventually result in bad uptime and speed.

But this wasn't my point, my point was that cogenco sells bandwidth for $30 per Mbps to hosts.

Jon
08-06-2001, 12:25 AM
As far as their uptime...I haven't seen how it would effect them considering they have multiple connections...

But hey...Think what ya want people...But you'll be the one left with the bill and no money http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Jon

Crunch
08-06-2001, 12:43 AM
I have a dedicated server at http://www.dynamichosting.com
I've been with them for 6+ months and almost no downtime, great support too.

toker
08-06-2001, 01:12 AM
Let me just say BTW i dont host so dont contact me about the $.50 per GB it was a joke.. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

ProgGod
08-06-2001, 01:31 AM
Drop me an email or icq, and I will cut you a great deal on a dedicated server. I have seen a competitors offer I haven't beat yet, and we have unbelievable support, and great internet connections.

ICQ: 69658209
Email: preston@hiendmedia.com
http://www.hiendhosting.com

Jon
08-06-2001, 01:32 AM
Once again...Learn to read! He asked for us webmasters advice...Not spamming hosts...

Jon

Crunch
08-06-2001, 02:14 AM
Are you sure you won't be too busy spamming to give support proggod? You spammed my e-mail 2 times per day with your shit.

deniska
08-06-2001, 03:13 AM
Energy is 100% correct there is a difference between cogentco bandwidth and bandwidth you get from a premier providers such as level3,verio,uunet,ect.. How many of these premier providers want to peer with a company that sells low end bandwidth for $30/mbit? Almost no one. The extra price you pay for premier bandwidth, 24 hour support, tech guys who know their shit, and name brand equipment is worth it if you are serious about your business. If not just get a dsl line and host your site from your house it will be just as good as cogentco http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif. Hit me up on icq #51130723 I can work out a good deal for a dedicated server.

magnatique
08-06-2001, 03:27 AM
http://www.dynamichosting.com does well for me!

Jon
08-06-2001, 03:35 AM
Support...Reliability...Speed...3 things everyone wants in their hosting package...

Why your attacking one of xxxhostit.com's bandwidth providers I don't know...For some reason xxxhostit has excellent uptime...Could be the whole point of multiple line support? Hmm....

Other hosts attacking other hosts on a post that is aimed to webmasters telling about their hosting experiences...Get real!

I get the 3 things required in a good host...Thats all that matters...

Jon

Jon
08-06-2001, 03:44 AM
Anyways...Bad mouthing a network like Cogentco just shows how much you know...

If ya did your homework you would know they own their entire Us network which I might add is 100% fiberoptic which means they don't rely on companies like verio, uunet, level 3, ect ect...

Now when you get outside of the usa you see they peer with Sprint and Abovenet which as awesome world wide networks...Smart move by them I would guess...

If you want to talk about hardware lets talk about cisco...Oh wait aren't they a big partner and invester in the network? If I am not mistaken all the hardware is made and maintained by cisco...

And on the news you would notice the headlines being "Cogent Communications, a next-generation optical ISP, has executed a multi-faceted agreement with Level 3 Communications, Inc"

So when you want to try to make other hosts look bad do your homework before you try it...Then you won't be the one ending up looking like a fool...

Also feel free to check out http://www.cogentco.com/News/news_071101.htm

Jon

shane94
08-06-2001, 06:22 AM
http://www.hiendhosting.com does great for me. Been very satisfied! Great deals on server prices.

Shane

manofman
08-06-2001, 08:48 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by shane94:
http://www.hiendhosting.com does great for me. Been very satisfied! Great deals on server prices.

Shane</font>

Are you his partner or so? I mean, you make a lot of advertisement for hiendhosting. I found a lot of reactions from you over hiendhosting. Strange.......

ProgGod
08-06-2001, 11:13 AM
Shane is just a customer, and a very happy one http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif


And no I can't read, its strange how you get 2 spams a day from us, considering we have sent out 3 webmaster emails in our life.. hmm

Energy Hosting
08-06-2001, 11:21 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by qualitythumbs:
If ya did your homework you would know they own their entire Us network which I might add is 100% fiberoptic which means they don't rely on companies like verio, uunet, level 3, ect ect...

And on the news you would notice the headlines being "Cogent Communications, a next-generation optical ISP, has executed a multi-faceted agreement with Level 3 Communications, Inc"


Also feel free to check out http://www.cogentco.com/News/news_071101.htm</font>

It does not matter than they own their entire US network if they have bad peering! Since neither you or me (and virtually everyone else) are connected directly to cogenco the data has to go through other providers before it reaches the cogentco network, the problem is that the cogenco network has few connections to other networks. It's all about peering, it's all about other providers.

The link you posted is not called "News" it's called a "Press Release." Press releases are written by spin doctors to twist the facts and can not be considered the truth.

I never said that xxxhostit is a bad host, all I wrote is "Is $220 per mbps a fair price for cogentco bandwidth? I don't think so." It's you the one who started defending xxxhostit and cogenco when I did not say a single bad thing about them.

Jon
08-06-2001, 01:00 PM
You make alot of good points energy but yet you don't hold to them? I have talked to several of your current and past customers and me being one of your last customers I see you have no place to speak in this matter as your hosting is not of the best as is...So before stepping over and commenting on another host...Check yourself...

Jon

Jon
08-06-2001, 01:04 PM
And the point that you said about not saying a bad thing about either company is a lie...When you talk about saying their bandwidth is shitty which you did and that would be a personal attack...I have never had a speed issue with xxxhostit and never any downtime because of the bandwidth providers...The only time I had a downtime or two was hardware problems...Which was pomptly fixed...

So don't say you weren't attacking xxxhostit because you were when you started commenting about prices on where they get their bandwidth...

As I have said before...and I hold to it...This goes with any host out there...The thing that is a concern is the speed, reliability, and the support...If you don't get those from the hosting company you are with it can be caused by a number of things...But I have had good on all of those with xxxhostit

Jon

Energy Hosting
08-06-2001, 01:29 PM
I did not say that EnergyHosting is the best, it is possible that there is a better company.

"So before stepping over and commenting on another host" I did not say one good or bad thing about xxxhostit, my entire point was that $220/mbps is not a fair price for cogentco bandwidth and I explained why, that is all!

Jon
08-06-2001, 01:31 PM
Would you like me to investigate how much you pay for your bandwidth and see if you are fairly pricing your bandwidth?

Jon

Ludedude
08-06-2001, 02:11 PM
http://www.flashhost.com

I'm a webmaster, I host there, I like it a lot. End of story. No pissing, no moaning, no bullshit.

For a bunch of pissants that ban people for talking shit, you guys take the fucking cake. Which part of Cogentco Vs. The World is helpful to a guy looking for information about where webmasters host??

Jon
08-06-2001, 02:15 PM
Ludedude...

People started questioning my hosts integrity because I posted about my host first so of course I defended them as they would me...no bitching http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Jon

magnatique
08-06-2001, 03:27 PM
cogentco offer 1000$ for a 100mbps connection they claim... so 220$/mbps is bad, no? http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Simon
08-06-2001, 05:33 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Energy Hosting:
Where a host gets their bandwidth from is directly connected with uptime and speed, it makes a huge difference. Having only one connection to a provider with a few peering points will eventually result in bad uptime and speed.

But this wasn't my point, my point was that cogenco sells bandwidth for $30 per Mbps to hosts.</font>


He is absolutly right. Alot of you seem to be getting fooled with this 100 dollar/mbps nonsence ... if there is one little problem in any of the points your basically fucked till they get that fixed. so overtime you are going to see alot of network problems just give it some time.

Jon
08-06-2001, 06:25 PM
No one listens? That is one of their lines...They have backups just for this reason...or any other bandwidth or network problems

Jon

loster
08-06-2001, 06:33 PM
This Cogentco.com issue has been brought up several times before on several different boards, and it's always interesting what people think about it.

Here's what it comes down to. They look to be providing a basic local loop service. In theory, it would be like selling you a phone line for a good deal, but not including the long distance. Last time I checked, there isn't any mention of peering, etc.

KimmyKim checked on it once and and found this in the fine print:

You have to be in a large, multi-tenanted commercial location where they can install your racked equipment in the building.

It's just like everything else, if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. Bandwidth prices are dropping a lot lately, and that's good for all of us. But don't start looking for $10Mb/s just yet :-)

Have a great day,

loster


Dynamic Hosting
Phone: 301-931-6574
Email: chad@dynamichosting.com
ICQ: 15898919

shane94
08-06-2001, 06:48 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by manofman:
Are you his partner or so? I mean, you make a lot of advertisement for hiendhosting. I found a lot of reactions from you over hiendhosting. Strange.......

</font>


If you do me right I will tell the world but fuck me over and i will do the same. I have been very happy with them that is why i post. People ask for a good host and I believe that i have found one. I use no refer code to get sales credit and i can show anyone here where I pay my bill every month. I am in no way associated with them but like Preston said I am a very satisfied customer. If you were thier customer too I am sure you would do the same.

Shane

Jon
08-06-2001, 07:22 PM
I agree with shane...

We were just posting about our hosts and then people had to but in and start shit just because their company or their hosting company was not mentioned...

Jon