Telcoweb shut down? Whats the deal?

[Due]

If I'm not mistaken then Telcoweb is BTV industries.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2002Apr24.html
and also
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2002/04/btv.htm

The complaint announced today named as defendants Rik Covell, Adam Lewis, BTV Industries, National Communications Team, Inc., LO/AD Communications Corp., and Nicholas Loader. At the request of the FTC, a U.S. District Court has halted the scheme and frozen the corporations' assets pending a preliminary injunction hearing

This does not sound good. Anyone talking to Telcoweb have more info?

[candidpublishinginc]

I just love it how the FTC blames Telcoweb for something THEY DIDN'T DO and something THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF when it happened!

Fucking morons have their heads so far up their asses it isn't funny.

The kids who participated in this scam had their accounts terminated by Telcoweb a long time ago. The fact that the FTC has to bring it up now makes me fucking sick.

[Due]

They can't be closed neither. I see USA calls today

[exitmoney]

what are the resellers from telcoweb saying, they should know better what is going on ?

[Marco]

Maybe it's just me, but I simply cannot believe that these people, the defendants, have been involved in e-mail spamming...
Must be some of their webmasters, I would think.

Marco
info@codialer.com
ICQ 29151164

[candidpublishinginc]

Maxcash had their assets frozen a while back to (Once again for something that wasn't their fault) and signups still showed up.

[candidpublishinginc]

Originally posted by Marco
Maybe it's just me, but I simply cannot believe that these people, the defendants, have been involved in e-mail spamming...
Must be some of their webmasters, I would think.

Marco
info@codialer.com
ICQ 29151164

It wasn't Telcoweb.

It was a bunch of idiotic kids who did it under Telcoweb's nose. They had NO WAY of knowing that this happened until it was too late because these kids hacked their dialer and hosted it themselves.

[Marco]

Candid, thanks for clearing that up

Marco
info@codialer.com
ICQ 29151164

[candidpublishinginc]

Also,

I'd advise everyone to not panic, and not take down Telcoweb's dialer if you are promoting it.

A similar matter happened with Max Cash, and everyone got paid on time.

I know for a FACT that Telcoweb is innocent in this matter. This is NOT like the Verity case, so please do not try to connect this with that.

[candidpublishinginc]

Correction about the Max Cash case,

People DIDN'T get paid on time, but they got paid when the FTC released RJB Telcom's funds which was about a month later.

[elron]

I am expecting for more news about it from the right people .
Post here everything you know please .

[rhizome]

I wonder how long Telco's resellers did know about this - especially Richard. Maybe that's why you disappeared without honoring your payments?

[Chupa]

... they need to change all those ads.

"Stop getting paid and start getting fucked! Whacked by the state-of-the-art telco network! The most busted name in the dialer industry!"

Seriously, their assets are about to be frozen. Read the court order. Unless they show cause to the court demonstrating why the court should NOT order the injunction, their assets will be frozen and they will be prohibited from doing busines or paying anyone. And they only have until tomorrow to do that.

I am shocked that some of the old heads around here would cry that Telco "isn't responsible" ... there is already legal precedent that makes operators responsible for the behavior of their sales or affiliate force. Even if Telco did discover and close those accounts, they evidently failed to provide redress to those harmed by the practicesor prosecute those responsible.

If they failed to do anything about the violators, then they directly benefited from the violations, in the form of profits.

Oops. lol

[candidpublishinginc]

Chupa,

Believe me Telcoweb did not profit from this scam.

Scam = Chargebacks + Lost revenue on transport fees

Before you run your mouth, you need to learn a little about the dialer business. Every gross minute billed....regardless if it was collected or not, the network operator has to pay transport fees on it. Which means Telcoweb lost major money on this scam, not gained any.

Oh and based on your fucked up logic, perhaps we should go after AT&T too since they handled billing at the time and profited from it.

[Chupa]

... despite your somewhat hostile and defensive stance, they still failed to make redress, or prosecute the violators.

[nasko]

I was wondering why I'm not getting paid for the last pay periods and may be that's the reason...if they have problems may be they are holding the money as much as they can.

[Due]

I think the case looks worse than it actually is.
If the ass was burning that bad they would not have their #900's open now to receive calls from dialers.
At leat that is my guess

[Due]

Originally posted by nasko
I was wondering why I'm not getting paid for the last pay periods and may be that's the reason...if they have problems may be they are holding the money as much as they can.

That would make no sence to me. If I was in a situation where I might get all my funds phrozen I would pay as many webmasters as fast as possible to get that settled and I didn't need to worry about the government taking them

[nasko]

May be my case has nothing to do with the current situation.

Anyway the dialer are fucked up lately, first GIB and Varadox and now Telco. They are going down one by one.

[nasko]

I mean dialers not dialer ...